That's about the frame for someone that is 6ft and a buck one seventy. Just a FYI if thats what your trying to cut down to. :D

I'm come from skinny Irishmen. It is what it is. Plus, I've got the German beef on the other side of the family. It's a weird mix.

I've never really understood the hate.

You can weigh 160 and not have visible abs.

It's not hate, just an on-going joke that has been thrown around the fitness community for a long time. Yeah, you can be 160 without abs if your short, not 6ft tall though.

Started doing exercises specific to shoulders and arms this year. Previously just relied on other compound movements to include them. Anyway, wanting to get a reference point.... about how much is everybody able to press overhead from the seated position?

On a FW press; rep w/ 45's.

So sets of 10 with 135?

Oh, and what is FW?

Pretty much.

"FW" = free weight. Not a machine.

I usually do my sets 10-8-6. If you can get that, add weight.

That's pretty much what I do. 5x15 with just 135 (I prefer standing). I'll never go heavy again on shoulder movements since my shoulder separation issue.. everything is 15-20 reps for shoulder work. :thumb:

I used to be able to do presses with 85lb dumbbells. No longer with all my shoulder issues. Now I do the same. Low weight and high rep. Usually max with 65lb dumbbells now.

Read a thing yesterday that said bench presses and traditional machine fly's are useless.

Recommended push-ups and cross-overs.

Thoughts?

That's ****ing reeruned. That's simply looking for readers with bullshit like that.

Seated? I have no idea. Standing military press is in the 180s. Maybe 190s on a good day.

Leg drive or strict with locked knees?