ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Chiefs' Player Jevon Belcher involved in murder-suicide, shoots self at Arrowhead

DJ's left nut said this:

You agreed with his post.

Perhaps I quoted the wrong guy. Maybe you weren't agreeing to the parts I thought you were.

DJ's idea was about as stupid as was his decision to refer to himself as DJ's Left Nut.

To me, we are talking about cold-blooded murder regardless of circumstance...sure wasn't defending himself.

I was agreeing with him about Belcher being a stone cold killer if the reason why he killed her was because she got home late from the concert.

Though I certainly understand where he is coming from in hoping that a person he liked just snapped instead of just being a stone cold killer.

silver & black

12-01-2012 07:44 PM

Raiders fan here. I just registered so I could give my sincere condolences to all the Chiefs fans and the Chiefs organisation in this time of sorrow. This goes beyond football and rivalries. I hope the league does the right thing and postpones your game.

Bwana

12-01-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenGuy (Post 9169248)

No problem. You guys have a classy fanbase. Our fanbase and the fanbases in the Northeast in general could learn a thing or two from you guys.

We have members that follow several different teams that post around here. Consider hanging out for the long term. Once again appreciate the kind words.

Bwana

12-01-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by silver & black (Post 9169252)

It looks like the game is a go, but classy post.

KcMizzou

12-01-2012 07:50 PM

I was telling my mom about what happened on the phone this afternoon, and she said, "You know, 24 hours ago.. that guy probably could never have imagined that it'd all end up like this."

Just ****ing tragic.

memyselfI

12-01-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9169192)

I am not apologizing for Belcher in any way, but I can say there were a few times before my divorce to my ex-wife that had a gun been handy at the right moment, she may be dead right now. I had that kind of rage. She put me through hell.

Not making excuses just not passing judgment.

Refreshing and brutal honesty. Unheard of in situations like this. I think MOST of us at one time or another has felt uncontrollable rage that, if not given a momentary pause and/or the lack of weapon, would land us in jail. I know I have as a partner and even as a parent. Luckily they have been rare and fleeting.

For someone battling rage and coping issues I think there is a culmination effect if left untreated.

jackfrost

12-01-2012 07:53 PM

Condolences from a Charger fan .....

Dreadful occurrence, cannot even imagine how Crennell and the other coach are supposed to coach after witnessing such a thing or how the players are expected to play under these circumstances within a 24 hour period, mind boggling.

Saddest part as always after events like this, is another child having to grow up parentless, in what is becoming a more cruel world by the second.

memyselfI

12-01-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9168361)

If the baby was only 10 weeks old, she probably wasn't very interested in having sex with ANYONE let alone other dudes, so I'm gonna guess it was not infidelity on her part...

Most women can have sex just 6 weeks after child birth.

Easy 6

12-01-2012 07:58 PM

His poor, poor mom... lost her son and beloved adopted daughter all in the same day, it must've been such an incredibly traumatic scene she witnessed.

What an awful day for her, this is the kind of thing that can literally take years from a persons life.

I hope that baby is enough to keep her going.

Brock

12-01-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by feldspar (Post 9169198)

To me, we are talking about cold-blooded murder regardless of circumstance...sure wasn't defending himself.

If it were cold blooded murder, I'm guessing he would have planned it out a little better.

KcMizzou

12-01-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9169279)

Absolutely. I can't even imagine...

Tribal Warfare

12-01-2012 08:05 PM

BIG_DADDY

12-01-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9168733)

Y'know, that's a really fair point.

When I was 18, I got in a argument with my girlfriend. I hung up, walked past my folks, went upstairs, walked calmly into my room and put my fist through the drywall. Really stupid, could've broken my hand had a stud been there. I was young, I was an idiot...but so was Belcher when the college incident happened.

But shit man, I've only ever hit another human being once in my life. I've never so much as contemplated getting physical with a woman (in fact, married the same girl and we've been married for 7 years).

I hadn't thought about it, but you're right. It's really unfair to try to hang that incident around his neck now. Some people have a temper - but it doesn't mean they're violent. Apart from this incident, we just don't see any indication that Belcher has shown a 'violent' streak. Just the same idiot young kid temper that a lot of us had in our youth.

Well I have hit a lot of human beings in my life in the younger years. I definately had some rage issues. With women I have never been that angry at one but I have friends who are in relationships with women that just want to push and will do anything to them. In relationships I think you have to be ready to walk even with kids if the behavior is bad. For the life of me I have no idea why guys stay in those relationships. I am not saying that is what happened here, I'm just saying. It also annoys me that when guys get pushed over the edge the woman always gets societies vicitim pass. These things are rarely one sided, one time issues. Once again I am not justifying anything or saying that was the case here just making a casual observation about domestic altercations in general.

feldspar

12-01-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9169202)

Why is it stupid considering he is a ****ing lawyer and knows the damn law regarding that.

Yeah, well I ain't talking about the law.

The law and the truth are two separate concepts entirely.

Belcher ain't going to court, either. Call it what you want, as will I. I call it murder.

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9169285)

If it were cold blooded murder, I'm guessing he would have planned it out a little better.

See my point above.

I'm saying that whatever he killed her for, that's cold-blooded murder AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I'm not about to continue to argue semantics about it.

We ARE talking about killing somebody, right? Making that deliberate choice.

Brock

12-01-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by feldspar (Post 9169305)

Well, I'm glad we've settled what the definition of cold blooded murder is AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED. However, the rest of the world has a slightly different interpretation of it. Cold blooded murder is exactly what it sounds like. It's planned, it's prepared, it's committed in a fashion designed to evade being caught. this wasn't that.

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