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TLO 02-11-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10427198)
Yeah, they're still soft and I don't see them grinding through tournament games and seemingly pulling wins out of their ass like they did a couple of years ago against Purdue, Ohio State, etc. Eventually the discussion turns from "they're young/they'll peak at the right time/etc"; to simply being this kind of team. The comeback was encouraging though and hopefully they learned something from that game.

Pretty much all of this.

Prison Bitch 02-11-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10427198)
The comeback was encouraging .

Exactly. That's the takeaway: they played in a rough road environment against a good team and nearly won it, despite shooting 3-17 from deep. While KSU went 8-15. We pounded them on the glass 43-32 and had only 11 turnovers. If we hit anything from deep we would've won.

The RPI projected a 77-76 loss last night which was pretty accurate. That same projection system predicts a 6-1 close to the season which would be really impressive in this league.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_145_Men.html

saphojunkie 02-11-2014 11:21 AM

That was the first time that we've played an OT game this season. Frankly, I really liked the way they gutted it out to come back. It got crazy toward the end, with Brannen Greene getting those two buckets in a row then just a horrible turnover.

Wiggins needed to hit that three, but I almost immediately yelled at the TV for him to just pass it right back to Brannen Greene.

What I honestly noticed for the first time last night is how Tarik Black is actually kind of short. In the handshake line next to Embiid, you could see that he's clearly 4 or 5 inches shorter. No wonder we had no rim protection.

Turner just became a must-have if Embiid goes to the league. Which he should.

Prison Bitch 02-11-2014 12:21 PM

We are #1 in the rpi, 9-2 in the toughest league, and co-favorite in Vegas to win it all. This has been a tremendous season even by our historical measures. Like Dean Smith used to tell Roy "when they stop rushing the court after beating us, then ill worry"

saphojunkie 02-11-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10427497)
We are #1 in the rpi, 9-2 in the toughest league, and co-favorite in Vegas to win it all. This has been a tremendous season even by our historical measures. Like Dean Smith used to tell Roy "when they stop rushing the court after beating us, then ill worry"

Smart guy. That good old Kansas education...

sedated 02-11-2014 12:53 PM

Embiid will be sitting, it looks like

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-miss-injuries

saphojunkie 02-11-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 10427567)
Embiid will be sitting, it looks like

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-miss-injuries

He'll be fine. I literally had the same back injury playing basketball a month ago. It was sore, but I could play. Then it would tighten up.

I took a week off and now I'm totally fine. With the trainers, masseuses, and care (and him not being 34 like me), he'll be just fine.

Mr. Plow 02-11-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 10427567)
Embiid will be sitting, it looks like

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-miss-injuries


He could essentially sit for 10 days through the TCU/Tech games.

KC_Connection 02-11-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10427592)
He'll be fine. I literally had the same back injury playing basketball a month ago. It was sore, but I could play. Then it would tighten up.

I took a week off and now I'm totally fine. With the trainers, masseuses, and care (and him not being 34 like me), he'll be just fine.

Problem is that it's the knee too. He hasn't moved the same way since it happened.

I'm willing to wait until March if it will get him back to the way he was in December.

KC_Connection 02-11-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10427198)
Yeah, they're still soft and I don't see them grinding through tournament games and seemingly pulling wins out of their ass like they did a couple of years ago against Purdue, Ohio State, etc. Eventually the discussion turns from "they're young/they'll peak at the right time/etc"; to simply being this kind of team. The comeback was encouraging though and hopefully they learned something from that game.

Yes, they're very good, but they don't seem to have the drive to be great like a few of Self's other teams, to really take that next step and separate themselves from everyone else ('08, '10 and '12 stand out to me). A consistent effort level, particularly on the defensive end, just hasn't been there all season. The youth no doubt has a lot to do with it.

sedated 02-11-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10427702)
Problem is that it's the knee too. He hasn't moved the same way since it happened.

I'm willing to wait until March if it will get him back to the way he was in December.

If he's not better in the nearly 2 weeks he would get off by missing the next 2 games, and considering its been 2 weeks since the knee injury, I'm not sure he would get back to 100%.

Obviously different sports, but knee sprains in football generally are a week-to-week deal and players seem to rarely miss more than 1 or 2 games.

KC_Connection 02-11-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 10427711)
If he's not better in the nearly 2 weeks he would get off by missing the next 2 games, and considering its been 2 weeks since the knee injury, I'm not sure he would get back to 100%.

Obviously different sports, but knee sprains in football generally are a week-to-week deal and players seem to rarely miss more than 1 or 2 games.

We have to consider the possibility that he may not get back to 100% this season, yeah. Marc Gasol missed about 2 months with a knee sprain earlier this NBA season and he still isn't quite back to himself yet. And I would not be surprised if he wasn't until next season (although I think that was more serious that Embiid's situation).

Bambi 02-11-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10427695)
He could essentially sit for 10 days through the TCU/Tech games.

Nice. Good timing

Bambi 02-11-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10427497)
We are #1 in the rpi, 9-2 in the toughest league, and co-favorite in Vegas to win it all. This has been a tremendous season even by our historical measures. Like Dean Smith used to tell Roy "when they stop rushing the court after beating us, then ill worry"

The court rushing was odd. But that's what happens when you're King.

TLO 02-11-2014 01:53 PM

Great timing to get Embiid healthy.


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