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alnorth 07-23-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6895636)
And?

If that's our outlook, it's time for the team to move or make an official declaration as a AAAA affiliate for someone.

agreed. I'm not even thinking of money, if he wants to sign we have to get it done. I'm honestly wondering given last year, 2 years ago, and this year, what is his real expected value for the rest of his career, and what is his value (possibly Cy Young inflated?) on the market? I'm wondering if the latter might not be higher than the former. I'm not saying it is, I'd just make it clear that I want the moon for Greinke, and not hang up the phone right away when people call.

DeezNutz 07-23-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6895642)
agreed. I'm not even thinking of money, if he wants to sign we have to get it done. I'm honestly wondering given last year, 2 years ago, and this year, what is his real expected value for the rest of his career, and what is his value (possibly Cy Young inflated?) on the market? I'm wondering if the latter might not be higher than the former. I'm not saying it is, I'd just make it clear that I want the moon for Greinke, and not hang up the phone right away when people call.

Completely agree with all of this, but I'm very nervous that Moore would be the one answering the phone for KC.

Sure-Oz 07-23-2010 09:32 PM

Greinke should be re-signed at all costs, if these young guys pan out he will need to be apart of it to make this team a division contender

DeezNutz 07-23-2010 09:34 PM

I hope Moosetacos is good but not great because if he's better than good he'll need to be paid, and we can't waste his talents.

****. Is this what we're reduced to? What a battered mentality we have as fans. Oh shitz!!! Money!!111!!3!!!

As David Glass shits it.

alnorth 07-23-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6895653)
I hope Moosetacos is good but not great because if he's better than good he'll need to be paid, and we can't waste his talents.

****. Is this what we're reduced to? What a battered mentality we have as fans. Oh shitz!!! Money!!111!!3!!!

As David Glass shits it.

I think the hope is that every 7 years we'll have all-stars in all 8 positions and 3 starters come up at the exact same time, win a few world series, then leave in time for the next 11 all-stars to come up from Omaha in the same year, etc rinse and repeat.

Awesome if that happens, but no. I'd still listen to trade offers in case a wild-eyed idiot wants to overpay me for our talent, but aside from that you might not keep everyone, but you have to keep some of them.

Sure-Oz 07-23-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6895653)
I hope Moosetacos is good but not great because if he's better than good he'll need to be paid, and we can't waste his talents.

****. Is this what we're reduced to? What a battered mentality we have as fans. Oh shitz!!! Money!!111!!3!!!

As David Glass shits it.

I still think we could keep our talent, i hope moose is a stud...

DeezNutz 07-23-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6895672)
but aside from that you might not keep everyone, but you have to keep some of them.

Exactly. "Them" being the key word.

The problem wasn't that we signed Mike Sweeney. The problem was that he was the only sumbitch we signed.

duncan_idaho 07-23-2010 09:44 PM

If the Rays offer something overwhelming... say, Wade Davis, Jeremy Hellickson and Desmond Jennings... I think you have to consider it.

You don't settle for anything less than that, though...

DeezNutz 07-23-2010 09:46 PM

I don't want to trade Greinke, but I'd probably drive him to the airport for that return.

Ebolapox 07-23-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6895672)
I think the hope is that every 7 years we'll have all-stars in all 8 positions and 3 starters come up at the exact same time, win a few world series, then leave in time for the next 11 all-stars to come up from Omaha in the same year, etc rinse and repeat.

Awesome if that happens, but no. I'd still listen to trade offers in case a wild-eyed idiot wants to overpay me for our talent, but aside from that you might not keep everyone, but you have to keep some of them.

essentially, the florida marlins model.

alnorth 07-23-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6895691)
If the Rays offer something overwhelming... say, Wade Davis, Jeremy Hellickson and Desmond Jennings... I think you have to consider it.

You don't settle for anything less than that, though...

even then I'd counter asking them if they can do anything better right up to the deadline. Make everyone prove that a Herschel Walker deal doesn't exist.

DeezNutz 07-23-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 6895698)
essentially, the florida marlins model.

Not the first time around. That was NY South.

duncan_idaho 07-23-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6895699)
even then I'd counter asking them if they can do anything better right up to the deadline. Make everyone prove that a Herschel Walker deal doesn't exist.


If the Rays offer that, I think it would be a huge mistake to not immediately accept it.

That IS a Herschel Walker deal. Hellickson is the best lefty in the minor leagues. Davis has huge upside. And Jennings is the best speed prospect in MiLB.

I'd run to the bank with that the second it was offered...

Sure-Oz 07-23-2010 10:11 PM

Rays wont do it...no way if its offered id do it as well....

KevB 07-24-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6895699)
even then I'd counter asking them if they can do anything better right up to the deadline. Make everyone prove that a Herschel Walker deal doesn't exist.

And just to be nice we'll throw in Farnsworth to help your bullpen. :D


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