and another 8 catches out of the backfield.

Link to the first statement?

What did we miss? Of the retreads, you believe that Billick would be the best choice because he adapts based on his talent.

True, Cowher might be a scheme guy, but we're prepared to run this scheme, and his overall record is superior. There is almost no way to come to any other conclusion, no matter how much one plays with the numbers. And Cowher has also demonstrated adaptability.

Overall, both might not be the best options possible, but I believe that we often look down on Cowher because of his connection to KC, ironically enough.

It amazes me that drafturbators, defenders of the 1st round QB above other statistical outliers, are defending retread SB winning head coaches, which is an even lower statistical outlier.

Billick, Gruden, Cowher? **** all of them. History says they won't win another SB.

Arians, Reid, Kelly, these are our best options.

He did.

You seriously need to look at those drafts and re-state your case here because there really was nobody available.

2002: David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, David Gerrard
2003: Carson Palmer (#1 overall), Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman


Palmer was the only guy from those 2 drafts worth trading up for and the Bengals were not going to give up that pick. Palmer was that season's Andrew Luck and the Bengals desperately needed a QB.

So in the 2 year period where they were needing to move up for a QB, they did. And in so doing, they took the guy most believed was the best available option at that spot and gave him a shot.

In fact, you could make a very strong argument that trading up for Boller is what actually ****ed them. Had they gone and gotten a veteran and waited for the 2003 draft, they'd have set themselves up very nicely in a loaded QB draft. But be careful here because that is exactly the kind of thinking that has you taking Manti Te'o and waiting for Teddy Bridgewater in 2014.

Billick's handling of the QB position was pretty damn defensible given the guys actually available.

Why are we wasting time with a pissing match about Cowher and Billick? Let's be real here....neither one are going to be coaching here barring a major surprise. Reid, I could see...but I don't think either of these 2 are here. Give it up.

And losing them.

Hey, if you want to live in the 1990's, it's your choice.

I'll take the guy who knows a thing about a passing offense, and has experience drafting a defensive powerhouse.

I'll also take the guy who isn't being hired in part because of his connection to the franchise and his ability to sell tickets.

Hey Clay, I want Kelly although....

but it can't prove it.

Guys like Billick are sure to pick up some knowledge about defenses, though.

Belichick could probably be a pretty damn good offensive coordinator in the NFL if he had to be one.

Praising? Not exactly. Claiming that he's the best of the retreads and would instantly restore credibility to this dog shit organization? Yep.

I don't want a retread HC, or a HC with total control.

But IMO, Billick is the best of those that meet that criteria.

Wasn't singleing you or anyone out. Just kind of addressing the general feel of Billick's Baltimore reputation, that's all.

That's where the props should go, but even then, how much did Ozzie Newsome help out on that front?


Look, Billick and Cowher both are accomplished coaches, and if either were to coach here, they would certainly be the best coaches we've had since Marty.

The reason we are debating it is because it appears we are going to get one of these guys.

You can forget about Arians and Kelly. Neither have NFL head coach or personnel experience.

Overall, I think Reid is the guy I want. Best of the bad.

And Jon Gruden won his championship in even less time than that! He's better than both of them! The longevity argument is rather lame.

The fact is Cowher sustained a high winning % throughout his career and always had his teams, despite what QB he had, ready to compete for a Championship. Once in the playoff's anything can happen.

I don't care about the 90's, but one thing is for sure, the Steelers have been contenders since 2005, and most of their key pieces are from Cowher.

Ben, Polamalu, Harrison, Ryan Clark, Heath Miller, Lamarr Woodley etc..

Another great post.