Toney isn't a Jag, he's just made of glass which is more scary because he can't be counted on.

No one here has said that we HAVE to get Hopkins. At least no one who has ever made any sense with their posts.

But for all the talk about Hopkins improving this team...you're on the other side just shrugging your shoulders and thinking that MVS, Toney and Moore plus a mid round WR will be just fine.

Sure. I am less concerned about the compensation than most, at least in 2023. That seems obvious I'm sure.

Re-sign Watson!

That Bucs Super Bowl was enjoyable. How many points did Mahomes put on the board without a serviceable OT?

Is that not a similar argument made by the "Hill is gone, the Chiefs are dooooooomed" crowd?

I mean if you see 50 targets between Toney and More turning into 100 targets between the two of them, you need to backfill 50 more targets. Is that ideal given the bottom of our present WR room? No. But is it untenable? Nah - there are still some available options and the draft.

It isn't Hopkins/OBJ or bust here.

Because having your entire OL get hurt is the same as thinking you need to draft an OT in the 1st round when you just ****ing signed one.

Say you trade for Hopkins. Does that stop you from drafting a WR this year? No. Does it stop Justyn Ross from having this miraculous breakout? No. Does it stop Moore from having a great sophomore season? No. What about Toney showing that he can put together 17 games? Nope. All it does is keep stacking the WR room and giving Mahomes as many weapons as he needs, while having a contingency plan if none of those things happen.

The biggest thing it does is not put so much weight on Kelce and maybe you can extent his elite play by a year.

But let's say you get 10 games and 7 targets/gm out of him. That's not unreasonably optimistic and it's 55 more targets than he got here last year. It's half of what was lost via letting JJSS walk.

I just think we're overestimating the impact of losing Smith-Schuster.

Exactly right. But that's just the thing - you're suggesting the Chiefs have options. Lots of options, actually because there are potential players out there that will move without us even knowing they're available.

The main reason replacing Hill worked was because Juju was able to get decent production all by himself. He didn't replace Hill but he replaced enough of his production to still win.

If we're now talking about replacing Juju with a player who will replace less of Juju's snaps and we're a full step further away from having Hill.

There comes a point where getting cheaper and cheaper at a position has diminishing returns. We are at that point with WR's now. In fact, I bet they built this WR room knowing they can get someone, whether it be Hopkins or OBJ or whoever.

There's NO WAY that we go into this next season with this WR corps plus a guy from the draft.

Absolutely.

Like we said all offseason, JJSS is fungible. But that doesn't mean you just give away what he brings and don't try to replace it.

God forbid Kelce miss any time next year because we'd find out really quick that this WR group is not that good.

We were some Kelce back spasms away from having a serious problem against Cincy.

For anyone that doesn't think we need WR's I point to the offense in the second half of that game.

Overall production will come from SOMEWHERE.

Last Season:

Jerrick McKinnon: 56/512
Noah Gray: 28/299
Justin Watson: 15/315


That's over 1,100 yards from 3 relatively unsung heroes.

THEY were the difference in production, not JJSS. They made up where JJSS couldn't.

We had two relative unknowns come in and produce for us a little bit to help offset the loss. I don't recall anyone saying that they expect over 500 receiving yards from Jerrick McKinnon. He saved our asses in a lot of ways.

Well, he ain't here either.

The idea is to gain another reliable target to take pressure off of Kelce and to give the Chiefs another option, in big-game clutch moments.

But you can add one of those guys and still do your "production by committee" approach. But why not upgrade the committee?