No. He isn't going to magically become a different quarterback if he plays in a different one-off game with a week of practice and a bunch of people he doesn't know.

The quarterback he is, the accurate, mobile, strong-armed, heady guy with a release that would instantly be top 5 in the NFL, has been there all season. Besides, who ever thought of taking a quarterback number 1 because he had a good Senior Bowl?

Every perceived flaw he has is either correctable or a result of garbage playcalling.

He's the guy.

way to be mature

The sever is so used to dupe threads it's just making dupe posts now...
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8325 posts will do that.

This. One game does not change my mind. I judge based on a body of work, which is the reason I can put the pinstripe bowl behind me.

Oh it's the whole board today

It might just be me, but I don't think a single post of mine has ever been duped. Weird.

If you came looking for maturity, you'll find none here. Go drink some antifreeze noob.

That's because the server knows your posts suck

Most of these dumb Jags fans think yall are getting Joeckel with the first pick and not Geno Smith. I even linked them this thread and they still are clueless. I have just explained to them the SOC movement and hopefully that will convince them.

Let them think that all they want LMAO

Who the **** do they think is going to play QB for us? Matt ****ing Cassel? :facepalm:

Understand that not only are we damaged as a fanbase from our inability to pick a QB in the first round, but other fans have also just come to accept that when it comes to QB's, we'll always take someone else's leftovers.

Exactly.

If he declines an invite to the Senior Bowl, he's likely being/been advised that he's going to be the #1/#2 overall pick if he just stays out of sight and does nothing.

I can't imagine that he or his agent is satisfied with where he's at on draftboards.

Haven't there been reports from actual team scouts that aren't lining up for Geno's services.

Senior Bowl is one of the last opportunities to separate yourself from the pack. I doubt he passes it up or he risks being passed up.

Every mock draft I've seen lately has him going #1. I haven't read much from actual NFL team scouts yet.

But it's a pretty safe bet that if he's not at the top of the boards, he'll play. If he's already at the top of most boards, he won't.

I could see Tyler Wilson passing him but that's about it.

Mock drafts don't mean anything, especially this early.

More like ever.

I wouldn't say ever. Once you start getting closer to the actual draft people start getting inside information and mocks start transforming into where teams are leaning instead of the mockers personal opinion.

Link? Always fun to see.

The prophecy of Tyson Jackson was all too real.

Are you ****ing serious?

See below (As he makes every pass in the book all game long every game):

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I won't expose you to that level of ignorance. You'll come away dumber.

I know they don't but it's all we have to go on.

As I said, I haven't read much from actual NFL team scouts yet. We won't start seeing actual scouting info until after the combine really.

And some mock drafts carry more weight than others. Guys like Dan Shonka and Scott Wright actually attend the Senior Bowl practices - they're, for all intents and purposes, scouts. They're just not employed by NFL teams.

Exactly.

htis,

Do you know if Geno is going to go to the Senior Bowl?

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54509

Everything I've read is that he got an invite but has yet to accept.

Same here. Wonder what the delay is about? He is healthy isn't he?

The ONLY idea I can come up with is that he's being advised that he's on Jacksonville or KCs radar.

If that's the case, his stock can't really rise so there's no reason for him to play.

That makes sense.

On that safety in the Pinstripe Bowl that Geno got leg whipped on, my memory is fuzzy.

Can someone remind me, wasn't Geno set up in the shotgun at the snap?

yep

That's what I thought.

So the bitch claiming he had a lane to step up in is telling us this, while also telling us that he ran back into the end zone, after a 7 step drop.

I think Reid goes with Geno if he thinks he's the best QB in the draft. If not, he takes another one 1 or round 2. Pretty much I trust his judgement.

I'd rather have Hasselback as the backup. He's a smart player who can help a new QB, and he won't cut in to his playing time like Smith or Vick will. If you're QB goes down a game or 2 he can still win games.

I think bringing in Hasselbeck would be hilarious.

He's the other QB besides Matt Cassel that essentially was responsible for burning down the Pioli regime (if the reports are true).

I must have missed this story.

Please elaborate.

Haley wanted to bring Hasselback in as the backup QB but Pioli wouldn't let him.

The story goes that in the 2011 offseason, Todd Haley wanted a veteran to compete with Matt Cassel in camp. Specifically, he wanted Matt Hasselbeck. Pioli refused, and instead saddled him with Palko and Stanzi, basically saying, "Here are your QBs if you want someone better than Cassel."

Cassel got injured, so Haley stuck with Palko stubbornly until he got fired.

LMAO

Of course.

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How could you not want Smith after watchinv the WVU vs Texas highlights.

Ball was on the 10 and Geno was in shotgun. He kept drifting back into the endzone.

Or, they realize he has a lot of work to do and his stock could take a hit.

My point is, if that stupid bitch wants to argue that it was ill advised to drift back, I can entertain that argument.

But if the stupid bitch wants to argue that he fiirst took a 7 step drop, and that he then had a lane in front to escape in, that argument has no merit.

First, she clearly has no clue how that played out, and second, there was no lane.

I will say this, regardless.

Geno Smith is not the first, and I highly doubt that he will be the last, to drift back into the EZ and take a safety in that situation.

And the list of QBs I've seen do it in the 50 years of watching the NFL includes some of the all time greats.

Jason Campbell is a better #2 option IMO. He's still somewhat in his prime, has pretty good tools and, at this point, probably would be happy to be the #2 guy in a system like Reids.

Take a guy like Sorensen in the later rounds to develop.

No shit.

The guy is a rock star.

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Not sure why you reposted the same gif.

Actually, pretty heady play by Smith.

That he gets the ball out and in the vicinity of a receiver before hitting the ground after an illegal leg whip in such a short time frame is impressive.

The refs botched that play twice.

Geno has some really amazing instincts that you either have or you don't.

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The mind blowing epicness of this game:

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B/c it shows that there was no mythical lane to run up into, and his oline had been pushed back 7-10yds into his lap. Not a lot to go there.

Maybe we should get this Dougitydog to come give a guest dissertation on #12 to the (FEW) nonbelievers on CP~

It's really a shame that Texas Tech figured out how to stop the Air-Raid.

What I'm trying to establish is that the bitch loses all credibility because she asserts that Geno drifted back into the EZ after he set up in the pocket from a 7 step drop.

He was in a shotgun.

There was no 7 step drop.

I should just stop watching Geno vids, I'm going to be too upset if we pass on him. =/

Analyst towards the end made a great point. Most college QB's and NFL for that matter, couldn't do what Geno did against air.

And yet, he's still making passes like these:

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Geno's ball placement is absolutely mindblowing. I don't think I've ever seen a guy do what he did this past season game in and game out.

Most guys have just a handful of these types of passes for an entire season, but here's Geno doing it every single game on the majority of his throws.

Freaking unreal.

This is the one that is the "you can't do that versus air" game:

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QB's can't pass like this in practice.

He's bombing it all game. Lasers.

The guy is utterly ridiculous.

If they don't pick Geno, I'm really going to be pissed off.

GET SOME

http://i.imgur.com/6v1HP.gif

CP can do anything it sets it's mind to.

And somehow there are dumbasses out there that dont want this on the Chiefs...After 4 years of Matt Cassel and 3 years of Huard/Croyle/Thigpen...Its amazing.

He looks like the real deal. I would say he's the pick. How others can't see his talent is mind-boggling.

Dumbshits keep trying to compare him to the hype of Luck. Trying to hold guys to the standards of once in a decade type prospects if ****ing reeruned.

If he has a Russel Wilson type impact we are gold and he's certainly a better prospect than Russ.

I've seen people talk about the system he is in and how many of his yards come after the catch. Just watch the guy. Forget the stats, those that go against him AND those that help him. Just watch him in the pocket. His mechanics. The accuracy he has for every throw you can make, and the strong throws he makes to the sideline, which I enjoy more then the rest.

Guy didn't win a BCS title, or a Heisman, or even a bowl game this year. Hell, he didn't even play great in that game. But when you watch his overall play and more importantly, what throws he is capable of making, I just don't see how he isn't the best QB prospect. We need a QB in a QB league, so I really am going to be surprised if we don't take him.

40-yard throw on the money.

I can't think of one 40-yard throw Cassel made here in 4 years that was that good.

Me neither.

And Geno made dozens of those just this season.

But he took 2 safeties in one game!!! That means he sucks!!

Question to all those against drafting Smith, will you be pissed if we do? How long are you willing to give him before you wanna move on?

C'mon O...don't invite the mongoloids and petri dish reerun clone babies back into this thread.

Anyone against drafting Geno Smith is a ****ing moron. Argument over.

I just wanna hear some other perspective.


I don't want the first QB we draft in the first round in 30 years to get 2 preseason games to determine his worth.

And won't this just be the irony of the fan base. They will give Cassel 4 years, hell some want to give him next year, but whatever QB we draft will not be given an inch to grow.

There are no other perspectives.

There are no other options.

The Chiefs draft Geno because he's a total ****ing kick ass quarterback and he starts for the next 15 years, wins four Super Bowls and is a first ballot Hall of Famer.

That's the only perspective there is.

And there is absolutely zero argument that can be made for any other player in this draft for the Chiefs. Geno Smith is it. Period. End of story.

LMAO Come on. I like Geno too, but I'll admit that that was a bad play by Geno. There was no reason to keep backing up. If anything, he should have stepped up. There's no reason to back up INTO your own end zone. He had space to either just step up and throw, or step up and run to his right or left.

I think you give any drafted qb three years.

Rookie year gets tons of leeway.
Soph year needs to show improvement.
Junior year they need to be competing heavily and if not, bench him for someone else.

Matt cassel had a few games stretch against a terrible NFC west in 2010, but for the way he ended the season, he didn't really deserves to come back as the proclaimed starter with only Palko as competition.

And, pray tell, where was he going to step up into?

And, if you had taken the time to see the clip, he was running to his left when he got leg whipped. Eh?

I don't believe he had space to either step up, or run to his right or left.

The only avenue he had for escape was going backwards.

I would argue however, that the smart decision there is either simply throw the ball away or step up into the sack in the field of play.

I don't really think he could have came up in the pocket, atleast that late in the play. The LT was in his lap.


He should have known to get it out quick there to get out of the shadow of the EZ.


It's a knock I actually have on him, he holds it a little to long at times. It's not a bad horrible thing cause he holds it trying to make bigger plays down the field.


I'd like to see him just take what the defense gives him a little more. When you watch the best QB's in the NFL, ala Rodgers, Manning etc, they aren't chucking it down the field deep all the time. They read defenses and take whats given.

Just take the underneath routes if they are playing deep, put a drive together and take your time.