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Stanley Nickels 01-16-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9326812)
Tell me again how bad our offense is again and how Ross should never shoot another 3 while we make a run at 80, have 5 players in double figures, and Ross leads us in scoring.

For someone complaining about us critiquing a team over such a small sample size, you should already notice the irony in that statement. Big picture, Saul.

duncan_idaho 01-16-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9326783)
Haven't watched much of Clark or JW3 but I'm excited about what I have seen from both. Clarkson is very good, and will bring a very good dynamic to the team. I'm most concerned about the 5-spot, because I really don't think Jankovic belongs as a 4. He's manhandled every time he's down low, as a result of poor footwork and positioning, combined with a frame that needs a metric shit-ton of work to get to the strength required for the grind of the backcourt game. If they feel that there's no ideal guy at the 5-spot, moving Criswell there and Jank to the 4 is a situation of "square peg, round hole" for both. I'd much rather see Criswell stretch at the elbow or short-wing baseline, as that's where he really seems to excel.

I would imagine they will start Criswell and Jankovic, at least initially, and run 4-out, one-in again. That would be interesting to see, especially if they have the jumbo backcourt out there. Both Criswell and Jankovic are good enough shooters to be the guy sitting in the corner (Kim English role) and both should be dangerous on the pick-and-roll.

Post should help and give them some additional beef, and you can probably sneak Rosburg for 3-4 minutes a game or based on matchups.

They need JW3 to be someone who can be a positive impact guy for 20-25 minutes a game, or they will be really thin in the middle.

Saul Good 01-16-2013 09:01 PM

OMG. He should have "set up a play"!

Stanley Nickels 01-16-2013 09:01 PM

I just want to clarify: I'm not a Haith-hater. I may be a Pinkel-hater, but I don't hate Haith, at all.

Saul Good 01-16-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9326817)
For someone complaining about us critiquing a team over such a small sample size, you should already notice the irony in that statement. Big picture, Saul.

We average 79 a game. We scored 79.

We're one of the best offensive teams in the country. Tell me more about calling a play, though. This is sixth grade basketball after all, right?

Stanley Nickels 01-16-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9326820)
I would imagine they will start Criswell and Jankovic, at least initially, and run 4-out, one-in again. That would be interesting to see, especially if they have the jumbo backcourt out there. Both Criswell and Jankovic are good enough shooters to be the guy sitting in the corner (Kim English role) and both should be dangerous on the pick-and-roll.

Post should help and give them some additional beef, and you can probably sneak Rosburg for 3-4 minutes a game or based on matchups.

They need JW3 to be someone who can be a positive impact guy for 20-25 minutes a game, or they will be really thin in the middle.

Shit, I completely forgot about Post. I need to catch some footage of that guy, I haven't seen a second. The holidays were crazy, and that news kinda blew by me. I hope Rosburg's problems thus far are just growing pains adjusting to this level of play.

stonedstooge 01-16-2013 09:03 PM

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'Hamas' Jenkins 01-16-2013 09:04 PM

I really like Haith as a recruiter, who shames Anderson's worthless ass, but his gameday coaching leaves a fair amount to be desired. In that way, he's like a lot of DI coaches, both football and basketball.

Stanley Nickels 01-16-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9326830)
We average 79 a game. We scored 79.

We're one of the best offensive teams in the country. Tell me more about calling a play, though. This is sixth grade basketball after all, right?

I was referring to Ross's affinity for jacking up threes early in the shot clock, especially considering his struggles shooting from the wing. I think CFH would agree with those frustrations. I am by no means saying we don't call plays, and I'm not entirely sure how you even inferred that. Whatever, though; all's well that ends well.

DaKCMan AP 01-17-2013 06:31 AM

Big game Saturday!

CoMoChief 01-17-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9327653)
Big game Saturday!

Where is it at? Gainsville or Columbia?

DaKCMan AP 01-17-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9327669)
Where is it at? Gainsville or Columbia?

Gainesville.

They play in Columbia on Feb 19.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9327653)
Big game Saturday!

Eh, yes and no.

It should've been a real nice test for both squads, but Mizzou without Bowers isn't really Mizzou.

Even last night against Georgia, without Ross having arguably his best game of his Mizzou career, they'd have struggled mightily without Bowers. His ability to score from so many places on the court is what really creates the spacing in MU's offense and allows Pressey to be effective.

I don't really expect Mizzou to stay within 10 on Saturday.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9326613)
I'm really becoming concerned that Haith's coaching abilities have been exaggerated by the play of Pressey and, albeit to a lesser extent, Bowers. There is such poor movement from this offense, and while we don't have the greatest scorers in the world (Bell, Ross, and even AO are only out there because of their defense and rebounding) we should certainly see better production from guys not named Pressey or Brown. NWC has talent and potential; why is it, then, that his game seems to belong in Division II? Jankovic should utilize his height to become a weapon, but on offense he seems to take up space and ruin timing, and on defense he far too often is out of place or abused by speed. Ross should never shoot a three again, ever. I don't care if he's wide-open on the wing- STOP- SETUP A PLAY. Ugh.

The movement dies when they can't space the floor. They can't space the floor when Bowers isn't out there because frankly it was going to be Bowers and Dixon that created the space. When Haith lost his most creative scorer and now his 2nd most creative scorer...well what exactly is he supposed to do?

NWC has little in the way of talent or potential. He's too weak on the ball, his handles suck, his feet are slow. He's a less talented version of Matt Pressey. His struggles aren't on Haith unless you attribute them to the fact that Haith recruited and expected as much out of him as he has to begin with. Then again, Haith didn't expect NWC to play more than a supplemental role this season anyway. Dixon getting rapey really dicked up Haith's rotations.

Jankovic is a weapon on offense but he's not a low-post player. That's not his game and has never been his game. He's more of a Lyons/Bowers type player in that he's going to use his size to shoot over people and a surprisingly quick first step to beat them off the dribble. While he's tall, he's certainly not a thick kid; he's not going to bang in the post. He's a guy that's going to play a 'Euro' game (even though he's from Canada). He'll need time to develop the touch around the rim that Bowers has developed, but it took L-Bow 4 years to get there, why would we expect a Canadian Frosh to come pre-packaged with it?

And Ross is one of the top 3 long-range shooters on the team. His size/strength belies his shooting ability. His 35% shooting from 3 is more efficient than his 44% shooting from 2.

In short, I think virtually everything you've said in this post is wrong. Almost every single word of it.

CoMoChief 01-17-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9327695)
Gainesville.

They play in Columbia on Feb 19.

Well MU can't play for crap on the road....esp in a arena like that. Don't see MU winning that one.


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