Its important to point out the fundamental difference between Reid and Pioli. Reid developed guys while Pioli literally laughed off the idea of ever drafting a QB.

I almost drove off the road Friday afternoon while listening to Fox Sports Radio. That ex-Raiders DB Steve Hartman actually said that the 49'ers "might be willing to part with Alex Smith" for the Chiefs' first round pick.

:facepalm:

Outside of Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid has produced the same number of franchise QBs that Scott Pioli has - zero.

I am ABSOLUTELY an Andy Reid fan. But he's just not this mythical QB whisperer. He just isn't. He's never had a dumpster fire under center. But he's never turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

He's been SOLID for his entire career. But the only time he's been GREAT is when he took the QB #2 overall.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.

Take Vick out of the equation, and you're looking at a 20-28 record (.416) and a 61:64 TD:INT ratio.

but...but...but....yeah this.
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Reid flipped AJ Feeley for a second.

Reid Flipped Kolb for a second round pick and a first round cornerback.

Reid got Mike Vick to play at a crazy level in 2011.

Nick Foles threw for 1700 yards in 6 starts under Reid, as a rookie.

Twice, he has identified and drafted what turned out to be the best QB of his class.

Raiders players are legally reeruned

Sorry DB meant douchebag.

Thats great and all.


But I'm not real interested in finding a guy he can get to play ok so we can flip him for picks.

I want the guy he can get to play elite and win games.

Yep. I don't love the idea of passing on a QB in the first, but I do trust Reid to come out ahead in the QB search.

His teams always drafted high and therefore wasnt in position to get a pick of quarterback....he was working with guys like Feeley and Kolb because they were the best guys he could get.

You're forgetting Favre and Hasselbeck in Green Bay. He was brought to Green Bay the same year Brett was so I'd like to think he had at least a little to do with his early success

eventually that image of flipping lemons and turds to teams is going to come back to bite Reid.

when he calls up someone for a deal, they are going to say thanks for no thanks. He suckered a lot of stupid people over the years to overpay for a lot of crap. I wouldnt be surprised if he called up Philly asked them to do him a solid and they told him to go pound sand.

And if Reid says, he's not in this draft?

Then all of CP will defer to his experience and knowledge. Really!
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