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Extra Point 01-08-2007 10:52 AM

Hello Damon Huard, goodbye Trent Green. Green was just a season away from riding the Washington pine, a heartbeat away from going in for Brunell.

Why is it we did so well when the playbook was simplified?

Why didn't we play-fake on first down, the first play of the game, when Indy was expecting us to run? Dungy over Edwards, as usual!

Next time, buy dinner, Herm!

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
the same porous OLine.

You are nuts if you think they aren't going to put forth a serious effort to upgrade the OL this offseason.

DeezNutz 01-08-2007 10:55 AM

I posted this in another thread, but I think it went under the radar: Does anyone know what the cap hit would be for saying good-bye to Green? Is it so nasty that this isn't even a realistic possibility with Carl looming in the background demanding his money's worth?

BIG_DADDY 01-08-2007 10:58 AM

The only change from Herm I want to see is him staying the **** away from the offense.

WilliamTheIrish 01-08-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
You are nuts if you think they aren't going to put forth a serious effort to upgrade the OL this offseason.

When you say upgrade, I want you to dream big and tell me who the Chiefs would go after.

let's get it out here and then we'll see how 'nuts' I am when the season rolls around.

Brock 01-08-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
When you say upgrade, I want you to dream big and tell me who the Chiefs would go after.

let's get it out here and then we'll see how 'nuts' I am when the season rolls around.

It appears the most notable player available in free agency is the Cardinals' Leonard Davis, so I don't see a lot of avenues to immediate improvement.

Calcountry 01-08-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007
I say we have Trent Retire. Make him Offensive Coordinator. Trent really couldn't do anything he wanted to do on offense. He made all of those plays when he was hurt and not a one of them used. Bring up Brodie, and let him chuck it.

ROFL

ottawa_chiefs_fan 01-08-2007 11:11 AM

Everytime they played up the Herm, Dungy, Lovie relationship on the telecast Saturday all I could think about was the inevitable fact that in close three-person male relationships, two of them are ALWAYS talking about what a dunce the third one is.....I can imagine the conversation and giggles between Dungy and Lovie after this one! I am sure they treat Herm like the drooling cousin chained to a post in the attic.

C-Mac 01-08-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by txhawk
As far as Solari goes, I'm not his biggest proponent. But in his defense, how can an OC feel comfortable calling pass plays downfield when the WR's can't get separation. The perfect pass is not a way to base your offense passing. Let Tony G go, use his money to get some WR help. Kennison is a borderline number two. Parker shouldn't see the field, and it's time Dante moves on. Use Bennett as KR/PR.

I'm still upset that he didnt call for more quick throw short crossing route passes, they work almost all of the time. When he finally did with Indy they scored a TD. Then next possesion, the crossing routes were open again but now Green decides to throw deep for int. Perhaps there is some truth to the type of offense your capable of and you have to de-program someone like Green. I have no problem with any offense that catters well to the skills of the players thus enabling the moving of the chains and scoring points.

Mr. Laz 01-08-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
In this case, you DO change the offense and keep the offensive coordinator.

Why?

Because Mike Solari was never allowed to call HIS offense. This was HERM'S offense all along.

but Herm says the offense is getting even more Marty-ballish


so the offense that solari did learn under vermeil/saunders is going away even more.

How is exactly did you make the leap to "Herm now is gonna let Solari do what he wants"?

Brock 01-08-2007 11:18 AM

I think most teams would fire an OC after a playoff game like that one. The Chiefs will probably give him a raise.

patteeu 01-08-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Here's my only problem - what variation of the Coryell system used big receivers? It seems like we have the personnel now to switch to the west coast w/power running (ala Seahawks and Packers), but we're stuck with an offensive coordinator that's never run that system and a quarterback who knows Coryell. What now?

Solari was coaching for San Francisco from 92-96 and for Kansas City from 97 until now. I think that both San Francisco and pre-Vermeil Kansas City ran the West Coast offense.

htismaqe 01-08-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz
but Herm says the offense is getting even more Marty-ballish

so the offense that solari did learn under vermeil/saunders is going away even more.

How is exactly did you make the leap to "Herm now is gonna let Solari do what he wants"?

After a playoff game like that, I think it's possible Carl sticks his nose into the situation. We've seen it before...

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
Solari was coaching for San Francisco from 92-96 and for Kansas City from 97 until now. I think that both San Francisco and pre-Vermeil Kansas City ran the West Coast offense.

That's encouraging. I guess we'll be looking at some sort of hybrid perhaps.

Mr. Laz 01-08-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
After a playoff game like that, I think it's possible Carl sticks his nose into the situation. We've seen it before...

it's possible ... but i have still yet to seen any indication from Herman that the change that's going to be made is let Solari do more of what he wants ... more importantly what he knows.


so next year our offensive coordinator is gonna be basically creating a new offensive system and teaching a new offensive system at the same time.

Herm admitted that Solari was only JUST learning the passing game THIS year.

So tell me how good is the passing part of the offense gonna be?

when Solari is such a n00b about it AND is gonna be learning and teaching a new passing game after only 1 year of passing OC experience.


you don't do this ... you don't take this kind of risk


if you want a new offensive system then you go out and hire an offensive coordinator who is an expert in that offensive system.


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