The Buccaneers knew the calls. If the opposition knows where you're going to throw the ball, they can get there to intercept it. Besides, that's irrelevant. The guy was an MVP and got his team to the Super Bowl.

This is an oversimplified conversation if I've ever seen one.

I don't think it's quite that bad.......yet.

It's these young kids nowadays, all chipper and full 'o piss n vinegar.

You're right, it's not that bad yet, but it is definitely trending in that direction.

You're ****ing kidding me....right? Now it's that the other team knew where he was going to throw it to. It's not Gannon's fault that he threw a shit tone of INTs that day. It's the coaches. FFS people.

It's definitely getting there. I remember when I left WPI because of the bullshit they called discussions over there.

Even fans of the other team are getting into the act.

Excuses, excuses.

Why do you keep bringing up something irrelevant and acting as if it matters? He threw a lot of picks in the Super Bowl, and part of the problem was that the opposing team knew exactly what plays were being run.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ucky_sider_ap/

I thought this was common knowledge.

It doesn't matter anyway, as far as the point I was trying to make. He was still a league MVP and took his team to the Super Bowl.

sorry, people who think this place has changed are self absorbed assholes...plain and simple


people have been crying about this place changing since the first day it opened....total laugh out loud nonsense....

people change...people think they're too good for this place, so they act like jesus for awhile then cry and pout and then leave...

people change...they get older and miss "their friends" and so they complain that "the planet has changed" because they don't recognize anyone any more...

it is all navel gazing, me-monkey horse crap....

this place is as interesting and busy as ever....hundreds of people have left and this place chugs right along with different people, that's life folks...things change...deal with it

phobia, htismage, russ, hell go back a lot farther....each time a favorite poster left some weepy self-centered poster claimed "it was all over!"..."it will never be the same!"..."it was better back then!!".....horseshit, lying horseshit

get over yourselves, you aren't that important....we'll be just fine when warjesusonthecross decides that the Planet isn't good enough for him anymore....did the sun come up when mecca left to comb his golden locks?

yes, of course it did....

one lesson: if you've ever said or thought, "this place is going to hell," please, do me a favor and take a vacation....walk Christ's footsteps on the beach and realize the simple truth:

You aren't that important.

Something irrelevant? THE MOTHER****ER THREW INTS!! How is that irrelevent to the topic at hand?

I can see your point on that, but the problem is that you're acting as if a QB is like a CEO of a company that needs to be held accountable for the entire company. He's not. The distinction is that Cassel cannot do anything for the defense, except maybe extend drives. Look at any company. If sales go up 75% but your operations department is so inefficient that costs go up 100%, your bottom line goes down and your business "loses." You can say that sales messed up because they didn't increase by 100%. But isn't it more logical to blame your operations department?

It's not like basketball where Lebron James is responsible for playing both good offense and defense. And so, the only way you can judge players is based on whether they played well within realistic expectations. If your realistic expectation is that your QB needs to score 30+ points to win games, then your QB has to be damn near perfect to win football games.

But QBs shouldn't be expected to be perfect to win football games. Of course, there are places where Cassel could have done better in that game, but improving from great to perfect is a hell of a lot harder than improving the defense that game from horrendous to average. When a baseball team loses, I blame the guy who went 0-4, not the guy who went 3-4 but missed out on one hit. He exceeded REALISTIC expectations. Accountability is not about blaming everyone when you lose. Accountability is about recognizing successes and improving the areas where you failed.

This just in,..

Matt Cassel had ham on Rye today for lunch.

Thanks!

LMAO

I bet it was Jewish Rye.

BADUM CHING!

http://img.costumecraze.com/images/v...30281-main.jpg

*(said the pot to the kettle)

Yeah, yeah; "I suck, die in a fire, I'm a douche; blah-blah-blah"

-The Talking Clap.