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Hammock Parties 09-23-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6101538)
whatever bad Cassel did against Oakland can be at least equaled by the idiotic 3rd and 18 check down from dumbass Croyle in the 4th quarter of the Ravens game...

That was at least EQUALLY as dumb as Cassel throwing that pass to Savage at the end of the 1st half.

Oh Hootie, STFU.

Cassel ran for 9 yards on 3rd and 23.

Neither play was dumb. Just a guy trying to avoid a turnover in a hopleless, no-win situation.

Hammock Parties 09-23-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101541)
I hope for the sake of our team Cassel is good because if he's not we're completely ****ed.

I bet you were shocked when he threw that touchdown. Admit it.

Hootie 09-23-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6101539)
Uh that play didnt give up a sure 3 points.

yeah you're right

it just gave us 4th and 18 from our own 20 in a must-get-a-1st down situation!

Brilliant!

Lets throw a checkdown to a double covered shitty TE and hope he miraculously A) catches the ball and B) breaks 3 tackles to gain positive yardage so we can hurry up to the LOS and pray we pick up a 4th and 16 instead of a 4th and 18!

That pass was super ****ing pussy and served no purpose...as a Chiefs fan, I would have been much, much, MUCH more satisfied with a forced pick 6 downfield because at least that means he would have attempted to make a play...instead he checked down because he was afraid he might take a hit...rather than step up and try to make a play so we can win a football game.

That 3rd and 18 was all I needed to see (again) from Brodie...he's basically dead to me.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101541)
I hope for the sake of our team Cassel is good because if he's not we're completely ****ed.

It's best for the long term interests for him to be really good. But if he's not, it's almost better for him to be really bad so that we don't have to dwell in Carl-esque mediocrity thinking that we're just one or two players away when we really have no chance due to limitations under center.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6101544)
yeah you're right

it just gave us 4th and 18 from our own 20 in a must-get-a-1st down situation!

Brilliant!

Lets throw a checkdown to a double covered shitty TE and hope he miraculously A) catches the ball and B) breaks 3 tackles to gain positive yardage so we can hurry up to the LOS and pray we pick up a 4th and 16 instead of a 4th and 18!

That pass was super ****ing pussy and served no purpose...as a Chiefs fan, I would have been much, much, MUCH more satisfied with a forced pick 6 downfield because at least that means he would have attempted to make a play...instead he checked down because he was afraid he might take a hit...rather than step up and try to make a play so we can win a football game.

That 3rd and 18 was all I needed to see (again) from Brodie...he's basically dead to me.

http://carlnet.no-ip.org/facepalm_implied.jpg

Hootie 09-23-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6101542)
Oh Hootie, STFU.

Cassel ran for 9 yards on 3rd and 23.

Neither play was dumb. Just a guy trying to avoid a turnover in a hopleless, no-win situation.

read below...

the Croyle pass on 3rd and 18 was an abortion of all abortions when it comes to NFL QB'ing...

Nothing Cassel did last game even rivaled that decision in my eyes...

and in all honesty, I think Cassel played a decent enough game to make me believe he will be a good QB for us...he's the only reason we really have for watching this abortion this year.

Mecca 09-23-2009 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6101545)
It's best for the long term interests for him to be really good. But if he's not, it's almost better for him to be really bad so that we don't have to dwell in Carl-esque mediocrity thinking that we're just one or two players away when we really have no chance due to limitations under center.

One of my best friends is a Bills fan that lives in Jersey on Sunday night he said this to me..."If Sanchez keeps this up and the Jets end up good for a long time I'm blaming you and your stupid ass team"

Hootie 09-23-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6101547)

you can never make your own point...tell me how that 3rd and 18 pass wasn't one of the dumbest decisions he could have made?

It was a terrible, terrible, ball-less throw that shows what kind of confidence Brodie Croyle has in his abilities.

He's a less talented, more injury prone version of Kyle Orton.

If that's what you want your QB to be than...whooopeee!

Dylan 09-23-2009 12:51 AM

On Whitlock:

Be careful of the bandwagon effect from viewpoints as well as objections because they don't fit someone's personal agenda.




just my expert opinion. ... :D

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-23-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6101519)
I think Pioli had his QB picked before he even hired Haley... so Todd is just playing the hand that's been dealt....

And if you are an Offensive-minded coordinator with an established level of success, staking YOUR REPUTATION in the league as you move up to the next and final tier of coaching, wouldn't you DEMAND to have a say if not the FINAL say on who the most important member of your offense and in-fact the team is?

Mecca 09-23-2009 12:52 AM

It's no worse than throwing a 9 yard pass to the middle without calling a timeout then throwing a ball to an area where there are defenders then following that up by getting sacked.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6101548)
read below...

the Croyle pass on 3rd and 18 was an abortion of all abortions when it comes to NFL QB'ing....

Yes, clearly more deleterious than throwing a left handed interception from your own end zone, or overthrowing an open receiver at the 10 yard line that leads to easy points, or missing an open receiver and causing a 70 yard INT return, or taking a sack when you could just throw the ball away, or losing track of the game and clocking it on fourth down, or lining up under the guard, or throwing a ball up for grabs when you're in the clutches of a defender on first down.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe he was just trying to get the **** rid of the ball or legally ground it so that the clock would stop?

Am I the only one who remembers multiple NFL teams picking up 4th and 18 or longer? It's a hell of a lot easier than scoring a touchdown when the other team has first and goal because of a sack/fumble or a boneheaded pick.

Hootie 09-23-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101555)
It's no worse than throwing a 9 yard pass to the middle without calling a timeout then throwing a ball to an area where there are defenders then following that up by getting sacked.

Coaches can call timeouts...if Haley wanted a timeout, he could have gotten a timeout...obviously, Haley didn't want a timeout...that's on Haley.

DaneMcCloud 09-23-2009 12:56 AM

Jamon Meredith was signed by the Bills.

Titty Meat 09-23-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101549)
One of my best friends is a Bills fan that lives in Jersey on Sunday night he said this to me..."If Sanchez keeps this up and the Jets end up good for a long time I'm blaming you and your stupid ass team"

Yea don't blame Seattle whos QB is 34 and injury prone.


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