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Sweet Daddy Hate 10-31-2009 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6221322)
I'll be the first to say I'm not a fan of Bernard Pollard and I wouldn't want him on my defense but that has a lot to do with personal preference and what types of secondary players I like.

In todays league I much prefer speed and range over hitting ability, if they have the ability to hit and support the run great but that's just a bonus.

So basically, you're a TP and not a BP. I can dig that. He's an amazing player who can cover a lot of ground very quickly, and a player who has excellent intuition against offenses.
I'd love to have a "Troy JR" on this team, but god DAMN that's a tall order.

Mecca 10-31-2009 01:18 AM

The league is pass happy, having a secondary with any players that aren't overly fast without great range is asking for it. If the player is extremely smart like a Brian Dawkins it's ok he doesn't get beat because he knows where to be.

Preferably you'd want a safety that can do both but that's asking a lot so in a pass happy league I will always go with the cover guy over the hitter.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-31-2009 01:25 AM

Yep, it's almost like you have to have an extra Nickel or three Corners these days to really get it done, but what amazes me is how fast the overall dynamic of the Chiefs could change with a duo of legitimate pass-rushers like we had in in DT and NS back in the day.
As much as trends change in the league, you force a team to the ground; you can own their ass all day.

Mecca 10-31-2009 01:29 AM

Everyone likes to point to the lines to the main culprit as why the team is bad, that's part of it the other problem is...this team is slow.

If you are the slowest team on the field every week you're gonna have a hard time winning.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2009 01:30 AM

Has Buster Hymen ever offered an opinion on anything football related other than seeing if he can suck the cum out of Pioli's dick like he's hitting a helium balloon?

Mecca 10-31-2009 01:32 AM

He really doesn't offer any takes other than "so and so sucks" "usual culprits" "defense if Pioli"

He doesn't even give reasons why he defends Pioli.

BossChief 10-31-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6221334)
The league is pass happy, having a secondary with any players that aren't overly fast without great range is asking for it. If the player is extremely smart like a Brian Dawkins it's ok he doesn't get beat because he knows where to be.

Preferably you'd want a safety that can do both but that's asking a lot so in a pass happy league I will always go with the cover guy over the hitter.

wouldnt this almost be considered the dreaded "chasing a fad", or do you think the theme of teams throwing 70% of the time and spreading defenses out will continue?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2009 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6221351)
He really doesn't offer any takes other than "so and so sucks" "usual culprits" "defense if Pioli"

He doesn't even give reasons why he defends Pioli.

He's pretty much the worst kind of poster. A dipshit lemming who doesn't even know why he supports the status quo.

Mecca 10-31-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6221352)
wouldnt this almost be considered the dreaded "chasing a fad", or do you think the theme of teams throwing 70% of the time and spreading defenses out will continue?

I don't think the passing trend is going away any time soon, and if it does we'll never seen teams that run it 70% of the time again more than a rare exception.

Personally I'd always tell you the fastest way to a good defense aside from pass rush is to have a very very fast defense with great range.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6221352)
wouldnt this almost be considered the dreaded "chasing a fad", or do you think the theme of teams throwing 70% of the time and spreading defenses out will continue?

Meh. You spread the D's out, the D's have an easy option, just like they did in the Run 'N Shoot Days: Kill the Quarterback.

Defense will always be about pressuring the QB. If you can do that, you can do everything else.

BossChief 10-31-2009 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6221349)
Has Buster Hymen ever offered an opinion on anything football related other than seeing if he can suck the cum out of Pioli's dick like he's hitting a helium balloon?

no shit huh.

that pos hit me with neg rep like 5 or 6 times today and over the time Ive been here has hit me like 10 times and 9 of them were for absolutly nothing to do with the post he neg repped or anyting to do with my posting, that and Claython carpet bombing me as well for another 6 today and its a miracle Im still hovering in the mid 40,000s.

Oh well, it was fun.

I was on my way up the noob rep ladder and now I got a longer trail to travel is all.

Rep dont pay my bills anyway!

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-31-2009 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6221359)
no shit huh.

that pos hit me with neg rep like 5 or 6 times today and over the time Ive been here has hit me like 10 times and 9 of them were for absolutly nothing to do with the post he neg repped or anyting to do with my posting, that and Claython carpet bombing me as well for another 6 today and its a miracle Im still hovering in the mid 40,000s.

Oh well, it was fun.

I was on my way up the noob rep ladder and now I got a longer trail to travel is all.

Rep dont pay my bills anyway!

FYI: The more you mention rep, the more neg rep you'll get.

Mecca 10-31-2009 01:42 AM

The forum has basically filled up with people who believe things and they don't know why they believe them so their easy resort is to just attack people with different views.

Just wait it'll get better when the draft becomes the major talking point we'll have people that know absolute shit about the players offering their takes then complaining they got called dumb.

BossChief 10-31-2009 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6221354)
I don't think the passing trend is going away any time soon, and if it does we'll never seen teams that run it 70% of the time again more than a rare exception.

Personally I'd always tell you the fastest way to a good defense aside from pass rush is to have a very very fast defense with great range.

ahhhh the 90s cowboys style of defense....

BossChief 10-31-2009 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6221360)
FYI: The more you mention rep, the more neg rep you'll get.

oh I understand.

case closed.:thumb:


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