Well I'm done trying beat a dead horse. History says no at a top 5 safety. Happened only once in the past ten years. I would bet big money the Chiefs don't take a safety in the top 5 pick either.
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but you need playmakers to win in the playoffs... the best lines in the world aren't going to win games on their own....... you have to have someone who can make the big play when the game is on the line....

That kind of rare safety is a different instance. Few safeties are so universally touted that they end up on the top 5-10 of nearly every mock draft board. I guarantee you Berry is one of those guys and nobody is going to second-guess any team that takes him early.

That's why our team is dumb and can't ever win anything.

There's no question that LT is a top 5 pick position......when the talent is there.

There isn't a LT in this draft worth a top 5.

There might be a team with the need to reach for a lesser talented Okung in this draft in the top 5, but he's not even close to the talent that the top LTs in the draft last year were.

The only way Berry doesn't go in the first 7 picks is if he's smaller than his list height of 5'10 that's the only way.

with the way the NFL is today, with the high emphasis on the passing game and the big play offenses... this year the NFL is on record pace for the most TD's on plays of 50 yds or more... so IMO the value of a playmaking safety has increased by leaps and bounds

I'm also really tired of fans who want a "hard working tough guy team" that has no playmakers or big name stars.

Get over it, you need playmakers to win you need superstars.

The real trick with all this is what happens if we pick 1. Or even 2.. or 3. I don't think a safety has ever been taken that high. Certainly very, very rare.

Belichick took Eric Turner #2 overall in Cleveland.

Eric Turner went 2nd overall.

I'd take Berry 1st overall, he's that good.

Dude, these guys are not roaming or freelancing. They are never, ever out of position. They move around as much as they do because they can see the play better than anyone on the field.

Many consider the Strong Safety to be the QB of the defense. Again, watch the Steelers game tomorrow. Seriously.

And if you can, compare that with the tape from the first few games when they didn't have Polamalu. The Steelers' defense looked the most vulnerable it's looked in 5 years.

No one's saying Polamalu could turn this defense around by himself. But by the way, funny that you seem to think he couldn't have affected the last 2 games, given that Mike Brown is responsible for at least 75% of the many costly big plays we gave up against Jacksonville and San Diego. On defense, he was easily the biggest liability in both of those games and his mistakes led to 50+ yard big plays.

this..... although when you're a fan of a team who's best playmaker was the TE for years and years it's kind of hard to grasp that concept

Yea, I don't care that it's KC and we're blue collar and hard working and all that bullshit, I want a team that's going to win something.