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The Franchise 04-05-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6654045)
Well, if Suh could improve your team a heck of a lot better and then knowing that there is a great chance the Chiefs will get good value in return for a young Glenn dorsey, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Except you have no clue if Suh could improve your team or not. You're HOPING that he can.

MoreLemonPledge 04-05-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6654038)
Now you're argument is stupid if you're going to argue Cassel is a rookie why wouldn't you draft the guy who's really a rookie?

What the **** do you think the guy is Chris Weinke?

This is frankly a double sided argument, he is not a rookie and the age is not irrelevant no matter how bad some people want it to be.

If that's really you're argument then our GM is even dumber than first thought.

He's not a rookie and I never said he was one. He's a player who has played 2 NFL seasons and doesn't have the wear and tear of 3 seasons in college and however many in the NFL, but has experience leading a team to success in the NFL. It's really an unprecedented situation.

Regardless, his health at 28 is much different than Ben Roethlisberger's at 28. (Please don't twist my words to say that I think he's as good as Roethlisberger. I'm using him as an example because they're the same age)

RedThat 04-05-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6654052)
Except you have no clue if Suh could improve your team or not. You're HOPING that he can.

lol okay

The Franchise 04-05-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6654060)
lol okay

Oh...so now Suh is a sure thing?

MoreLemonPledge 04-05-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6654050)
Interesting shit here.

Yet Leinart still won the Heisman trophy, which is given to the best player in college football. I don't see how that can be a strike against Cassel.

Bane 04-05-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6654044)
Cassel was suppose to be out Leinart...he didn't, that should tell you something.

That 1 FACT alone should end all the Cassel nuthugging!Lmao.
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The Franchise 04-05-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654066)
Yet Leinart still won the Heisman trophy, which is given to the best player in college football. I don't see how that can be a strike against Cassel.

Leinart, who won the Heisman, was the 3rd string QB. Cassel was SO great at QB that he played TE and WR.

ChiefsCountry 04-05-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654066)
Yet Leinart still won the Heisman trophy, which is given to the best player in college football. I don't see how that can be a strike against Cassel.

Cassel was suppose to be the starter and couldn't beat him out.

MoreLemonPledge 04-05-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6654071)
Cassel was suppose to be the starter and couldn't beat him out.

This is working against you guys. He was supposed to be the starter and couldn't beat him out.

So you're saying he was supposed to be better than the eventual Heisman trophy winner?

ChiefsCountry 04-05-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654074)
This is working against you guys. He was supposed to be the starter and couldn't beat him out.

So you're saying he was supposed to be better than the eventual Heisman trophy winner?

He was Palmer's backup, Palmer graduated - Cassel was next in line. He sucked dick and Leinart won the spot. Not that hard.

The Franchise 04-05-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654074)
This is working against you guys. He was supposed to be the starter and couldn't beat him out.

So you're saying he was supposed to be better than the eventual Heisman trophy winner?

If you're arguing just to argue....that's fine. But don't be stupid.

He was supposed to beat out Leinart....didn't happen.

He got drafted in the 7th round and was almost cut from the Patriots before Brady went down. He took a 16-0 team to an 11-5 record. He played last year and even after he got a running game and an improved o-line...he ****ing regressed.

Tribal Warfare 04-05-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6654066)
Yet Leinart still won the Heisman trophy, which is given to the best player in college football. I don't see how that can be a strike against Cassel.

Aside from Cassel losing out on the USC starters position, why didn't he try to transfer somewhere else where he could start? Yep, that's the true determination of a leader right there.

Chiefnj2 04-05-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6654044)
Cassel was suppose to be out Leinart...he didn't, that should tell you something.

Sanchez couldn't beat out Booty, that should tell you something.

RedThat 04-05-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6654064)
Oh...so now Suh is a sure thing?

Your statement applies to everybody.

Nobody knows how the athletes at the collegiate level will adjust to the pro level. The transition phase is very unpredictable. What many do know however, is that Suh is a better player coming out of college than Dorsey.

Im all about taking risks. I believe to build a good team on either side of the ball it all starts with the trenches. You just need a whole group of guys that are capable of doing it at the next level. Once you have a bunch of good linemen it opens things up and everyone else's job is a heck of a lot easier. Also, your team has the ability to be a lot more creative.

Chiefs can't do that, because imo, they have sh*tty lines and not enough good linemen on both sides of the ball.

MoreLemonPledge 04-05-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6654076)
He was Palmer's backup, Palmer graduated - Cassel was next in line. He sucked dick and Leinart won the spot. Not that hard.

He was worse than Leinart, who WON THE ****ING HEISMAN TROPHY. That means that any other QB, nay player, in the nation should have played behind Leinart, because he was better than any of them.

The fact that Cassel was, at any point, considered to start over the Heisman Trophy winner shows that they thought pretty highly of him.


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