I know the answer and I already stated he is Top 3-5. Your turn. Is he better than Rivers?

Dave, are you capable of explaining yor love of Eli in full English sentences? Your defense of his honor is suspect without valid data.

Certainly not statistically.

I've given my opinion.

I'm sorry you're a ****ing moron.

That's the only opinion you've given so far.

Stats aren't everything. Now again is he a better QB? Or better yet if you were the GM of the Chargers and you had a chance at either Eli or Rivers, who do you pick?

So a QB who throws for nearly 5000 yards with a shitty running game is overrated?

He has 2 rings and has been nothing but clutch in the post-season.

He's thrown for more yards than Rivers.

I would take Rivers over Eli especially considering they got draft picks to boot.
You do realize that Eli and his Daddy didn't allow for any other option.
As I understand, the Chargers had Rivers rated higher than Eli and knew the gnats GM would give up a lot to get him.
Rivers is a better QB. He just needs a defense.

I think if Eli's last name was Smith he'd be given more respect. His brother has the stats, he has the bling. It's kind of like the Elway vs. Montana thing. Both awesome QBs but for some reason people argue who is better. Give me any damn one of them :)

So you think he should be rated higher?

Not talking about the year they were drafted. I am talking about right now. Try again. You are the GM of the Chaga's and you can get either Eli or Rivers who do you draft? Why?

Peyton is the better passer in his prime no doubt. Eli is more clutch though. And they don't keep that as a stat. They don't need to. People remember that. But I would take either one of them. I don't think anyone would mind either of these two in KC.

Also didn't Rivers FAIL to make the playoffs a couple of years ago coming out of the mediocre AFC West with the #1 offense AND #1 rated DEFENSE?

If you step out of the box, you have to actually learn something about what it takes to win in the postseason and what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

Now, for all of Peyton's incredible regular season games in recent years, he has failed to live up to expectations in the postseason. EVERY single year that he's been there except when he won the Super Bowl, Peyton has choked.

1999 Colts lose 23-17 in OT to the Dolphins
Result: The Colts generated 11 points off Fiedler's interceptions but put a total of just 17 on the board.

2000 Colts lose 19-16 to Tennessee.
Result: Manning chokes. Colts lose, 19-16.

2003 Colts lose 41-0 to the NY Jets
Result: (14 for 31, 137 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs and failed to put a single point on the board. Manning chokes. Colts lose, 41-0.

2004 Colts lose 24-14 to the New England Patriots
Result: AFC title game against New England. Manning threw four interceptions. Manning chokes. Colts lose, 24-14

2005 Colts lose 20-3 to the New England Patriots
Result: Peyton 27 of 42 passes for 238 yards with 0 TDs and 1 INT. Manning chokes. Colts lose, 20-3 .

2006 Super Bowl Colts win 29-17 to the Chicago Bears
Result: When the Colts switched to a two back set in 2006, the backs both had amazing postseasons.

2007 Colts 24-28 lose to the San Diego Chargers
Result: Peyton 33 of 48 passes for 402 yards with 3 TDs and 2 INT. Manning chokes. Colts lose 28-24

2008 Colts 17-23 lose (Wildcard) to the San Diego Chargers
Result: Peyton 25 of 42 passes for 310 yards 1 TD and 0 INT. Manning chokes. Colts lose 23-17

2009 Super Bowl Colts 17-31 lose to the New Orleans Saints
Result: Peyton 31 of 45 passes for 333 yards 1 TD and 1 INT. Manning chokes.
Colts lose 31-17

2010 Colts lose 17-16 (Wildcard) to the New York Jets
Result: Peyton 18 of 26 passes for 225 yards 1 TD 0 INT. Manning chokes.
J.C. if you lose to Mark Sanchez, you damn better know you choked BIG time.

That is all.

Source: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...r_by=game_date

Now, may I suggest you take this information back to the Denver Broncos' forum and let them digest this.

Yours truly,

A fan of Peyton's big brother, Eli Manning :D