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Donger 08-17-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8826521)
I wouldn't have sent the dog either. 2 or 3 cops with sticks would have made short work of this guy and sent him to the nuthouse more or less unharmed. This was just pure laziness combined with stupidity.

Sort of like Rodney King?

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8826551)
OK but you don't expect police officers to engage in hand to hand combat with a knife wielding mad man do you?

No. But to continue firing 14 times AFTER the guy has been dropped is justified by what?

Brock 08-17-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8826558)
Sort of like Rodney King?

Yeah, sure. Minus the whole beating him senseless after he's been taken down.

Donger 08-17-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8826533)
Can someone tell if the cops had him surrounded? If not then it seems pretty clear when he took his steps he did not step towards the officers. In fact it looks like he was stepping on the other direction. I am trying to see if he started to turn his back to them.

This was already covered.

kysirsoze 08-17-2012 05:10 PM

I'm not too worried about the 30 shots. As has been said, once lethal force is justified, that's it. I just have to ask, if tazers aren't the answer here, then what the **** are they for?

vailpass 08-17-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8826563)
No. But to continue firing 14 times AFTER the guy has been dropped is justified by what?

Don't know enough to say. Don't know why they couldn't try to taze him first. Just know it is ridiculous to expect an officer to engage an armed man in hand to hand combat when he has other options.

crazycoffey 08-17-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8826526)
BTW, do you even realize how many rounds can be fired in 5 seconds? I can empty my 15 round clip in 5 seconds. Now multiply that by 6.


Accuracy count at all, or just closing your eyes and pulling the trigger. I'm an extremely good shot, and have been shooting for over 20 years, I'd say 5 seconds = about 6-8 shots accurately.

Of course if we were both shooting at a knife wielding maniac that number may go up, and accuracy may go down. Even for some as awesome as we are.

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8826567)
This was already covered.

And the verdict was?

Donger 08-17-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8826536)
It's true, in the breeding process the skin gets extra leathery and combine that with the long hair of the German Shepard, they are extremely knife resistant.

How accurate are tasers on a moving target? I presume the little zapper thingy doesn't move at the same velocity as a bullet?

Donger 08-17-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8826579)
And the verdict was?

There were two cops over near the bush, and the dead guy moved toward them with a knife in his hand, and was therefore shot.

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8826578)
Accuracy count at all, or just closing your eyes and pulling the trigger. I'm an extremely good shot, and have been shooting for over 20 years, I'd say 5 seconds = about 6-8 shots accurately.

Of course if we were both shooting at a knife wielding maniac that number may go up, and accuracy may go down. Even for some as awesome as we are.

At the range they were at I could empty 15 shots and be fairly confident I am going to hit on almost every one if not every one.

crazycoffey 08-17-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8826551)
OK but you don't expect police officers to engage in hand to hand combat with a knife wielding mad man do you?


The cops should have glared at the man and said, "that's not a knife, this is a knife" and then they could have tied their left hand to the man's left hand and had a good old fashion stickin' contest. Real men would have handled it that way....

DJ's left nut 08-17-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8826587)
At the range they were at I could empty 15 shots and be fairly confident I am going to hit on almost every one if not every one.

And you're absolutely incorrect.

They have done numerous studies on the effect of stressors on highly trained marksmen (soldiers, officers, etc...) and have found that marksmanship turns to crap pretty quickly once faced with immediate danger.

You see it all the time in shootouts - nobody hits shit. Very few people have the ability to control their adrenaline in that situation well enough to still be an accurate shot under duress.

Titty Meat 08-17-2012 05:18 PM

**** the police

Donger 08-17-2012 05:20 PM

Huh. He was apparently hit "only" 10 times.


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