Fat Scott and Romeo deflecting blame and putting it all on the players.

I am sure that is going over well in the locker room.

Quite a leadership group Clark has assembled at One Arrowhead Drive.

800 metric tons of gutless trash.

Carr was going to be an unrestricted free agent regardless of his salary. He was at the end of his rookie contract.

I don't even know what point you think you're making.

The first round tender at the end of the 2010 season only limits other teams' actions in signing Carr. It says they are allowed to sign him but they would forfeit a 1st round pick to KC. That is what the "restricted" part of being a RFA means. It has no bearing on what KC can do in terms of negotiating a new contract. That tender does nothing but protect KC's interests. It's all win.

At the end of 2011 season, Carr became an UFA. At that point, he's free game to the highest bidder or the team he wants to go to. Obviously KC can only use one franchise tag so they would have had to sign Bowe or Carr, and tag the other.

You don't know what you're talking about, and I don't think you even know what you're trying to talk about.

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The implication of this post would be that Scott Pioli went to Clark Hunt and said "Sup Clark, I got DBowe and Carr all set to go, just need your ol' John Hancock on the checks here". And Clark balked.

Do you really think that's how it went? Because I don't think the owner who's been spending more than 20% over the cap two years in a row is suddenly going to balk at keeping two of his drafted, homegrown players.

I'd say it's far more likely that Pioli sees signing guys to under-market deals as some sort of badge of honor. If he had to negotiate a contract like Carr's with Dallas, he'd feel like less of a man and probably wouldn't be able to get an erection.

Yes, I do. The Hunt family has been notoriously cheap. Couple that with the $125 million that Hunt shelled out personally for Arrowhead upgrades and I think he was sick of dolling out cash.

If not, and I'm wrong, he's the biggest ****ing pussy owner of all time. What idiot owner wouldn't want to sign his homegrown talent?

What you're saying Clark won't do, give $25M guaranteed to Carr and Bowe, he just did a year ago with Hali and Flowers. And the team payroll has been among the highest in the league two years running.

You can say "I don't care how much money he spends, he's still cheap" as much as you want, but it's starting to look a little silly.

If you want to, though, we can certainly criticize Clark for not going "What? **** that. Get him signed." when Pioli presumably told him that keeping Carr wasn't the right move for the team.

I said it during the Bowe/Carr crap and it's true.

Clark hired a guy who runs a team with the mindset of "don't pay a talented guy if you don't think you have to, even if he deserves it."

They're perfect for each other.

Payroll doesn't mean dick. It's all about the guaranteed signing bonuses.

It's clear that Clark Hunt didn't want to shell out the $50 million or so necessary to re-sign two home grown players.

Otherwise, they would have been signed. Period. End of story.

And stop with the ****ing payroll bullshit.

Going 0-16 would only benefit this team in the long run.

Do you really want to see a season where the Chiefs play like crap, somehow win 30-40% of their games, and have the management keep telling the press that everyone is doing a great job and getting better?

I don't.

I know exactly how you feel, and I'm a big football guy and I like to talk and think about football. And I am in the same boat with you about this franchise is draining my love for the game out of me, so I been doing something else that is more productive for my time with regards to football.

I been busy coaching MS and HS team here in Kansas City, and it's much better to teach them the basic fundamentals and help them get better every day.

It's definitely much better this way and more enjoyable for a guy like me, and it helps that K-State is winning as well. I'm not going to let whatever that I have no control over going to bother me. I'm just going to focus on what I can control.

Would you mind falling down during a critical juncture every week?

Saying Clark Hunt is cheap has officially been debunked.

He may not be sending the checks to the right places, but the checks are getting signed and sent out.

Dane, I just don't understand how ANYONE can call a guy cheap that is one of the highest spenders of cash on player payroll, pays the highest amount to his GM of anyone in football and his team would be OVER the salary cap if we didn't roll over 20 million of cap space from last year.

Carr wanted to play in Dallas and that's where he went and never left regardless of who was calling (and there were multiple teams) so Pioli made a major move asap to fill his spot by adding Routt (who has played well so far)

Not only that, but by losing Carr we will get a third round compensatory pick.

Routt + 3.5 million + 3rd round pick > Brandon Carr

As far as Bowe goes...he has the same agent as Mike Wallace and MW has said he wants top 3 wr money...cant imagine Bowes demands are much different.

That's in the neighborhood of 45 million guaranteed dollars...not 50 million combined for Carr + Bowe...that would be closer to 70 million in guarantees for the pair.

When ALL of the evidence is examined, it's understandable where we are with Bowe and Carr.

TBH Bowe is only ****ong himself because if Pioli signs Albert long term during the year (which is highly possible) Bowe will get tagged again after this season and will hit free agency at 30 years old.

At that point, he is gonna be hoping for top 10 money and that's if he doesn't get any significant injuries...the years will also be less, too because nobody is gonna sign him a 30 year old wr to a 6 year deal...likely a 3 or 4 year deSl MAX.

There are lots of things to fault Pioli and Hunt for...Carr and Bowe shouldn't be included IMO.

Who ****ing cares? He let Carr walk and didn't sign Bowe.

He's ****ING CHEAP!

The ****ing NFL is about GUARANTEED CONTRACTS.

Jesus ****ing Christ.