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RealSNR 09-06-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9944095)
Jeez....when you're as BROKEN as the Chiefs were on offense, you first must first right the ship (stabilize things). That in istelf IS a step forward. Then you go from there in a positive direction.

Again, show me some other teams around the NFL that do this.

I'll show you some shitty failures who are bad year after year after year.

Mile High Mania 09-06-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9944081)
They didn't need to run. Baltimore was gassed and Denver knew it and went right at them with the pass. They have a TON of new starters on defense. Much harder to stop the pass than the run. They were out of position on a few TD passes and then on otherse just flat out missed tackles. Again, bottom line, Denever didn't need to run it.

Denver's big area of concern on offense is rushing... Moreno and Hillman can't hold onto the rock and it's too risky to give either more than 10-12 'touches' a game. Jury is out on Ball...

They got off to a very slow start, dropped several key passes. They'll need to dramatically improve the run game, but the good thing was that Denver's defense held their runners very much in check, so that was positive. Charles and Company aren't going to be that much different from Rise and company.

O.city 09-06-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9944113)
Again, show me some other teams around the NFL that do this.

I'll show you some shitty failures who are bad year after year after year.

In his defense, isn't isn't that what the Seahawks, 9ers, bengals, texans did?


It's not necessarily the way I'd do it, but there isn't a single way to do it

RealSNR 09-06-2013 09:10 AM

Remember when Tennessee brought in Matt Hasselbeck to stabilize the QB position?

Remember when Miami traded for Trent Green to stabilize the QB position?

Remember when Oakland brought in Aaron Brooks and/or Jason Campbell to stabilize the QB position?

This shit only ever works if the veteran is really good. That's our saving grace in this strategy. Alex Smith could surpass even the homers' expectations and be really really good.

Otherwise it's a waste of ****ing time. A COMPLETE waste of ****ing time.

RealSNR 09-06-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9944119)
In his defense, isn't isn't that what the Seahawks, 9ers, bengals, texans did?


It's not necessarily the way I'd do it, but there isn't a single way to do it

No. Three of those teams drafted promising rookies in Year One of the stabilization. The other traded for a QB they believed could be a franchise guy.

What we're proposing to do is say, "Look, we're just complete awful ****ing shit. Just the worst ever. So let's calm things down, get the offense playing together under a veteran who knows what he's doing."

An "evaluation year" if I may call it so.

O.city 09-06-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9944131)
No. Three of those teams drafted promising rookies in Year One of the stabilization. The other traded for a QB they believed could be a franchise guy.

What we're proposing to do is say, "Look, we're just complete awful ****ing shit. Just the worst ever. So let's calm things down, get the offense playing together under a veteran who knows what he's doing."

An "evaluation year" if I may call it so.

So maybe Reid thinks smith can be a franchise guy? Maybe we just signed our promising rookie in year 1 of the stabilization?


Sorry, but it seems your mad just to be mad, when in fact we did essentially the same thing this teams did

Coogs 09-06-2013 09:43 AM

We may not win the division, but it is sure going to be fun beating the Bronco's in Denver to win the AFC Championship!

FlaChief58 09-06-2013 09:45 AM

1-10, same as it's been since OTAs

BigMeatballDave 09-06-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9944199)
We may not win the division, but it is sure going to be fun beating the Bronco's in Denver to win the AFC Championship!

HELLZ YEAH!

Rain Man 09-06-2013 10:00 AM

Denver is Manning and a bunch of scrubs. No running game, no pass rush until they get their main criminal back, and receivers who can only catch balls thrown in their numbers. If Manning's rheumatism acts up, Denver is toast.

Mav 09-06-2013 10:05 AM

If you thought that the Ravens team before last nights game was what many thought, including Chris Berman foolishly picking them as his super bowl pick this year, then that shows how much you really understand.

If you truly understood the game of football, and stopped looking at BOX SCORES, and watched and understood football, you would of realized that last post season while the numbers looked great, Joe Flacco didn't play as well as his numbers.

He was rescued, time and time again by teams mistakes, (Rhahim Moore, Peyton Manning) and by his own players, (Anquan Boldin, Dennis Pitta, Jacoby Jones) more than Joe Flacco being a top shelf qb, or anywhere near what his contract was.

The Ravens lost all of their leadership when Ed Reed left, and Ray Lewis retired. And how did everyone like seeing the Ravens barely run the ball and seeing Ray Rice alternate series with Bernard Pierce?

Don't get me wrong, the Broncos are a good team, but, they wont be able to hold up to teams that hit them in the mouth when they are on defense.

John Harbaugh screwed the pooch really hard last night. Joe Flacco looked like absolute shit, and they pretty much ignore Ray Rice all night while players like Ed Dickson dropped passes, and Joe Flacco led Dallas Clark into monster hit after monster hit.

The Ravens are not a playoff team this year. Too much was lost on offense and defense.

TEX 09-06-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9944113)
Again, show me some other teams around the NFL that do this.

I'll show you some shitty failures who are bad year after year after year.

I'll stick close to home here - Oakland did it with Jim Plunket and more recently Rich Gannon. Hasn't really worked out for them since. BUT, under the right circumstances, it can be done.

ALso, the Texans are doing it with Matt Schaub and they contend now every year...

BigMeatballDave 09-06-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9944113)
Again, show me some other teams around the NFL that do this.

I'll show you some shitty failures who are bad year after year after year.

Houston did it when they acquired Schaub. And it cost them 2 2nds.

Marcellus 09-06-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9943933)
Wrong.

People acting as if the future is set in stone for Geno and EJ is the biggest intellectual dishonesty of this offseason.

LMAO, no you have that backwards dumbass.

Thinking Geno has any reasonable chance of being franchise is truly being intellectually dishonest.

You are seriously only kidding yourself.

LOCOChief 09-06-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9943546)
In what dimension can this team, with our dinky QB and subpar WR corps, compete with that football giant we just witnessed?

You're living in a dream world.


Who's living in a dream world? The guy that say's let's see a game before making judgement or the jackass that gives up before the first snap.

You wake up defeated.


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