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TEX 05-12-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10625134)
I wouldn't like Daniel if he was reasonably priced.

He's simply another aging never has been providing a reason for this team not to be serious about upgrading the position. Instead of getting serious about the most important position on the field we are worrying about who's going to replace Hali, Flowers, etc. down the line and ignoring the QB because "Well, we've got Daniel."

You're entitled to your opinion. Me, well I'm glad "We've got Daniel." :)

TEX 05-12-2014 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10625153)
Come on. Tyler Bray may be immature but his 24 wonderlic, although not great, hardly is consistent with your statement. He's no Jeff George, who got a 10.

Common sense Dumb, not test score dumb...

Dunerdr 05-12-2014 08:11 AM

Does one start make you an experienced backup now? Kyle orton is an experienced back up. Matt Cassie is an experienced back up. Chase Daniel is a guy who started a game against a fringe team.

FishingRod 05-12-2014 09:07 AM

Daniel started one Game against a team that really needed to win and we started all of our backups. I expected us to take a beating. Taking that into account he played ok and looked far less bad than some of the garbage we have trotted out in the last few years. Unfortunately I see his ceiling maxed out as an adequate backup. If we were poised for a SB run I would want a better more experienced 2nd string QB. I think where we are actually at I would like to see us keep those with a higher upside. A playoff with Smith healthy all season seems unlikely with him missing a few games we are close to 0 %. So I guess I am saying the best thing we could do is try and make CD look as good as possible and hope some other team finds their selves in a dire enough situation where we might get a late round pick for him.

saphojunkie 05-12-2014 10:34 AM

Chase Daniel is a short fat turd who wouldn't be given two seconds of consideration except he played for the dogshit university in Columbia.

The Franchise 05-12-2014 11:01 AM

Daniel gives you absolutely ZERO upside. If Smith goes down.....Daniel isn't leading us anywhere that Bray or Murray can't take us.

Just Passin' By 05-12-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 10624897)
Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD% INT INT% Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating

Alex Smith 48 31 288 64.6 6 1 2.1 0 -- 30 5 22 87.8

Chase Daniel 48 30 272 62.5 5.7 1 2.1 1 2.1 24 11 64 76

Tyler Bray 40 21 220 52.5 5.5 3 7.5 1 2.5 43 5 44 83.3

Did you really just make a 1:1 connection between exhibition stats and how well QBs played?

Ultra Peanut 05-12-2014 01:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pF477abcPE

Easy 6 05-12-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10625479)
Daniel gives you absolutely ZERO upside. If Smith goes down.....Daniel isn't leading us anywhere that Bray or Murray can't take us.

THAT

ILChief 05-12-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10625209)
Does one start make you an experienced backup now? Kyle orton is an experienced back up. Matt Cassie is an experienced back up. Chase Daniel is a guy who started a game against a fringe team.

This. Daniel is not an experienced backup. He has started one more game in the nfl than bray, Murray, or me.

-King- 05-12-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10625479)
Daniel gives you absolutely ZERO upside. If Smith goes down.....Daniel isn't leading us anywhere that Bray or Murray can't take us.

As a backup, you just need to be able to win one or two games IMO. Asking a backup to win much more than that is unrealistic. In that one or two games, I'd rather have Daniel. It's not really about upside at that time, it's just about who I trust more in a emergency situation.

CoMoChief 05-12-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10625479)
Daniel gives you absolutely ZERO upside. If Smith goes down.....Daniel isn't leading us anywhere that Bray or Murray can't take us.

well **** it we should just give up then, if Alex Smith goes down.

hell... ****ing Damon Huard led us to the playoffs in 2006.

jd1020 05-12-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10626196)
As a backup, you just need to be able to win one or two games IMO. Asking a backup to win much more than that is unrealistic. In that one or two games, I'd rather have Daniel. It's not really about upside at that time, it's just about who I trust more in a emergency situation.

An emergency for what? If your starting QB goes down you can pretty much forget about anything meaningful.

-King- 05-12-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10625209)
Does one start make you an experienced backup now? Kyle orton is an experienced back up. Matt Cassie is an experienced back up. Chase Daniel is a guy who started a game against a fringe team.


Doesn't change that he still has been in the league for 6 years and knew the systems in both New Orleans and here that Sean Payton and Andy Reid both trusted him as a backup. The only time a backup has a lot of playing experience is if he was a former starter that flamed out like Kyle Orton or Cassel. Look at the backups on other teams. Other than those guys, backups don't usually have a lot of playing experience. It's not Daniel's fault that Drew Brees has been healthy every season since he signed with the Saints.

-King- 05-12-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10626202)
An emergency for what? If your starting QB goes down you can pretty much forget about anything meaningful.

Hence the "one or two games" part. A backup QB should give you a chance to win one or two games.


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