Originally Posted by tjwessksu (Post 10806656)

A functional medicine practitioner will run a lot of tests to look for nutritional deficiencies, as these are pretty much at the heart of every disease known to man, not lack of drugs or energy drinks. 3 things that need to be boosted are thyroid, adrenals and mitochondrial function. Google those and what supplements will help and you're on your way. For thyroid, to see if you have an issue take morning temperature if it's below 97.5 on average for 14 days then you are not producing enough thyroid hormone and have subclinical hypothyroidism. Or see the doc and get a comprehensive thyroid panel, Jeremy Baptist at allergy link will run all of those. There are so many things you can replace the energy drinks with that could help it could probably fill out a book, you just don't hear about them. Methylated B vitamins, adaptogens to support the adrenals (read adrenal fatigue), and the list goes on. Good luck

Originally Posted by tjwessksu (Post 10806748)

Actually the correct term is adrenal dysregulation, because there are periods of high and low cortisol, thanks for pointing that out about the fatigue thing. And no it is not made up, do you know the lab used to test for adrenal dysregulation, dhea, etc. im guessing you have zero background and no research on this field because you are referring to dr oz, who merely exists to confuse the hell out of people. I knew any legitimate discussion as to the causes of fatigue would be blasted on a forum like this.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10806778)

I didn't refer to Oz who is currently getting his ass sued off right now for pimping supps that don't do near what he claims. I'm open minded to point including stuff only done in vitro as the moment. I'll check it out, but the term "adrenal fatigue" as a negative stigma related to it. I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to alternative medicine though.

Originally Posted by tjwessksu (Post 10806781)

This whole country needs a paradigm shift. Land of the sheeple. Youve all been indoctrinated into this from the moment your born. Im done.

Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 10806782)

There's being open, and there's believing a quack who is talking about "subclinical hypothyroidism", adrenal fatigue, methylated B vitamins, etc. as if they are some sore of miracle cure for fatigue.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10806787)

I've heard mixed reviews from people that have tried injectable B vitamins. Never checked out the science though since I wasn't planning on trying it myself.

Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 10806792)

Why? The liver stores massive amounts of B12, and you would have to be avoid it for months to become deficient. Pointless.

And it's readily available in meat and dairy. The only people who should worry are strict vegans.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10806796)

Right. Like I said I heard mixed reviews. Sound like the positive may have been placebo, but since I wasn't planning on buying it I never checked it out past what guys in my gym told me.

Originally Posted by tjwessksu (Post 10806748)

Actually the correct term is adrenal dysregulation, because there are periods of high and low cortisol, thanks for pointing that out about the fatigue thing. And no it is not made up, do you know the lab used to test for adrenal dysregulation, dhea, etc. im guessing you have zero background and no research on this field because you are referring to dr oz, who merely exists to confuse the hell out of people. I knew any legitimate discussion as to the causes of fatigue would be blasted on a forum like this.