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DenverChief 12-31-2015 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11988741)
This is not true, either.

Impulse equals the change in momentum.

F*∆t=m∆v

So, let's say that De'Anthony Thomas is running at his average speed during a 40, of 8.89 m/s

He weighs 80 kg.

F*∆t=80*8.89= 711.2 Newtons

Now, let's take Adrian Peterson, whose average speed during a 40 is 9.09 m/s and weighs 100 kilos

F*∆t=100*9.09=909 Newtons

Thus, you need to apply a force that is almost 30 percent greater to stop Peterson than Thomas.

But, let's say that a MLB is bearing down on both of them.

Luke Kuechly is 108 kilos and ran at an average speed of 8.73 m/s

He can deliver 943 Newtons of force.

So, what happens if both were running head on into each other?

943*∆t= 711.2; ∆t=.754

943*∆t=909; ∆t=.963

De'Anthony Thomas experience a much greater negative acceleration (deceleration) than does Peterson. Thus, his brain hits the front of his head with much greater force than Peterson, which increases the chances of injury.

Tl;Dr version? You're completely wrong.
So what you are saying is that a 400 lb Defensive Lineman can't get a concussion from a bomb blast or a car accident .... because well they are bigger

and FWIW the injuries MOST often occur when the deceleration is from the ground not two players running head long into each other - nice analogy but completely wrong

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-31-2015 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11988754)
So what you are saying is that a 400 lb Defensive Lineman can't get a concussion from a bomb blast or a car accident .... because well they are bigger
No, you stupid ****. Perhaps you should learn how to read.

DenverChief 12-31-2015 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11988757)
No, you stupid ****. Perhaps you should learn how to read.
I did read - you just said that a bigger individual has a slower deceleration on an impact than a smaller guy thus making them less prone to concussion.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-31-2015 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11988759)
I did read - you just said that a bigger individual has a slower deceleration on an impact than a smaller guy thus making them less prone to concussion.
Yes, but you seem to be unable to understand that less prone does not mean impervious.

Do you have any ****ing idea how much more powerful a bomb explosion is than an NFL tackle?

stevieray 12-31-2015 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11988751)
Of course soft tissue injuries, like ligament tears, can happen to everyone. No one denied that; but there is a reason why OL weigh 300 pounds and not 220, and why RBs that weigh 220 last longer and can carry the ball more than those who weigh 195.
....tell that to Barry Sanders.

Furthermore, there are identical lineman in weight, and one player's career lasts 14 years, another only three.

It's about the individual.

DenverChief 12-31-2015 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11988762)
Yes, but you seem to be unable to understand that less prone does not mean impervious.

Do you have any ****ing idea how much more powerful a bomb explosion is than an NFL tackle?
Dude I go to car accidents every damn day as both a police officer and more recently as an EMT firefighter....what I do know is that an NFL tackle is similar to a car accident (when speaking about the forces involved) it matters not the physical characteristics of the driver (or passengers). Its the amount of force applied. Basically what I have been getting at all along that you can't seem to comprehend is the same force applied equally to any players noggin can and usually will result in a concussion/TBI regardless of how skinny or fat they are.

FloridaMan88 12-31-2015 08:06 PM
If this was a concussion issue, DAT would still be on the Chiefs injury report as still dealing with concussion-like symptoms.

That is not the issue, since the Chiefs have categorized DAT's absence as "non-football-related".

DenverChief 12-31-2015 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11988782)
If this was a concussion issue, DAT would still be on the Chiefs injury report as still dealing with concussion-like symptoms.

That is not the issue, since the Chiefs have categorized DAT's absence as "non-football-related".
Unless it psyched him out - "I feel fine, I just don't want to do that again" kinda thing

Chromatic 12-31-2015 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11988783)
Unless it psyched him out - "I feel fine, I just don't want to do that again" kinda thing
I sincerely believe that might be the case. The concussion stuff has been spreading throughout the league for a while now and players have started to retire early because of it.

Like I said earlier, this is just the beginning.

FloridaMan88 12-31-2015 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromatic (Post 11988790)
I sincerely believe that might be the case. The concussion stuff has been spreading throughout the league for a while now and players have started to retire early because of it.

Like I said earlier, this is just the beginning.
The concussion thing is so overblown and political it is a joke.

I look at Frank Gifford as the perfect example. His family decides to release the fact he had CTE and somehow we are supposed to believe that made him lead a damaged life.

A guy who lived until 84 years old (longer than the average lifespan for an American male), and who had a pretty robust and active post-football life in Hollywood and broadcasting.

If DAT wants to give up what he has worked hard for all of his life… football because of the overblown fear of concussions, then he is not making a smart decision.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-31-2015 08:32 PM
He's posting a lot on Twitter, even up to just 30 minutes ago. Not one word about his situation though. It's weird that they won't tell everyone what's going on.

SAUTO 12-31-2015 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11988723)
And gets hurt every other year.
Being fair so does lynch and bell is on ir also

Chromatic 12-31-2015 08:33 PM
lol yeah brah all those former players coming out and saying they're having memory problems and problems concentrating and having problems with depression thats getting worse by the year and saying they wish they'd chosen a different career path is so overblown.

it's all politics brah. pc police run amokkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

FloridaMan88 12-31-2015 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromatic (Post 11988815)
lol yeah brah all those former players coming out and saying they're having memory problems and problems concentrating and having problems with depression thats getting worse by the year and saying they wish they'd chosen a different career path is so overblown.

it's all politics brah. pc police run amokkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
A lot of the players who are saying that also happen to be broke and looking for more $$$ from the NFL. It is mostly a money grab.

lewdog 12-31-2015 08:35 PM
He's not really good enough to care what his decision is either way.


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