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DaNewGuy 11-02-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12524532)
I can't remember how long ago it was..but Jimmy Raye said in 20 years, the NFL would be dead.

I don't watch as much as I nearly did. It's blatantly obvious they favor certain teams. OPI and DPI happen on every play, blatant holding happens every play....Hali used to get held on a consistant basis. It's the fallback to determine games, or take away big plays.

Money , IMO, has corrupted the game.

And it bums me out..I've loved football since I played as a kid.

....with each passing year it just all seems scripted and contrived.

:shake: :(

Goodell wants you to use your childlike wonder and believe ! Believe 2 mins, believe believe -DT

DaneMcCloud 11-02-2016 04:34 PM

Goodell's not the reason for three Prime Time games each week nor the over-exposure on networks like ESPN and Fox Sports 1. Goodell's not the reason for games in London or Mexico or China. Goodell's not responsible for franchises holding municipalities hostage for Billion dollar stadiums.

That's all on the owners.

What Goodell IS responsible for is the hiring, firing, training and teaching of the referees. He's responsible for disciplining players and teams for breaking rules. He's responsible for player safety and for making the game fun.

In those terms, Goodell has failed miserably.

jjjayb 11-02-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 12523799)
I would submit that those that stopped watching the NFL over 1 guy protesting those people weren't real NFL fans to begin with.

And btw do they even talk about the protests anymore? I don't think I have heard it mentioned at all for a few weeks.

I was a real NFL fan. I did stop watching because of the protests. Not because of 1 guy protesting, but because of the multiple people protesting and the NFLs hypocrisy by not putting a stop to it. When a player can sit during the anthem and not be fined or suspended, yet another player can be suspended for tweeting "ewww gross" when he sees two men kissing, I'm out.

I've got no problem with the suspension for the "ewww gross" tweet. What a player says reflects on the league. I do have a problem when the NFL says that people who sit during the anthem are just "expressing their first amendment right", so they do nothing. The "ewww gross" guy had a first amendment right also.

I've been a huge NFL fan since I was a teenager. I haven't watched a game in several weeks. I'm done. My wife sure is happy about it though.

DaNewGuy 11-02-2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 12524580)
I was a real NFL fan. I did stop watching because of the protests. Not because of 1 guy protesting, but because of the multiple people protesting and the NFLs hypocrisy by not putting a stop to it. When a player can sit during the anthem and not be fined or suspended, yet another player can be suspended for tweeting "ewww gross" when he sees two men kissing, I'm out.

I've got no problem with the suspension for the "ewww gross" tweet. What a player says reflects on the league. I do have a problem when the NFL says that people who sit during the anthem are just "expressing their first amendment right", so they do nothing. The "ewww gross" guy had a first amendment right also.

I've been a huge NFL fan since I was a teenager. I haven't watched a game in several weeks. I'm done. My wife sure is happy about it though.

You're not allowed to hop back on the bandwagon buddy when Reid leads us to the promise land

jjchieffan 11-02-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 12524580)
I was a real NFL fan. I did stop watching because of the protests. Not because of 1 guy protesting, but because of the multiple people protesting and the NFLs hypocrisy by not putting a stop to it. When a player can sit during the anthem and not be fined or suspended, yet another player can be suspended for tweeting "ewww gross" when he sees two men kissing, I'm out.

I've got no problem with the suspension for the "ewww gross" tweet. What a player says reflects on the league. I do have a problem when the NFL says that people who sit during the anthem are just "expressing their first amendment right", so they do nothing. The "ewww gross" guy had a first amendment right also.

I've been a huge NFL fan since I was a teenager. I haven't watched a game in several weeks. I'm done. My wife sure is happy about it though.

If you're "done" then what are you doing posting about the team on an internet forum?

jjjayb 11-02-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12524601)
If you're "done" then what are you doing posting about the team on an internet forum?

Does posting here help the NFL's ratings?

jjjayb 11-02-2016 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12524587)
You're not allowed to hop back on the bandwagon buddy when Reid leads us to the promise land

I have no doubt the Chiefs will go to the Superbowl this year. That's just the way my life works. You guys can thank me for it later.

Prison Bitch 11-02-2016 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12523544)
Two keys reasons the NFL is rolling over in ratings:

1. Too many games on too many days have diluted the hell out of it, including the stupid 3 games in London in the morning they steal from fans tailgating for their home teams.

2. The No Fun League and stupid rules for penalties for celebration, what is a catch, and all the other silly crap that is slowing the game down and turning it into 4 hours of interruptions and penalties that have turned so many people off.

I'm in no hurry to watch any other games like I once was.



Polls say Kaepernick is the main reason. It's really a hoot watching everyone on this thread desperate to dance around this issue, when its being told straight to your face by opinion pollsters asking actual folks.

WhiteWhale 11-02-2016 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 12523803)
Dink and Dunk or the West Coast Offense, supplanting the running game with short passes, was mainstream 25 years ago.

Supplanting?

I think you mean 'supplement', not supplanting.

In no case ever has short passes replaced running the ball, and the run pass ratio over the past 25 year has not become less pass happy.

Joe Montana was not throwing the ball 50 times per game.

Chief Pagan 11-02-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12524028)
Or perhaps we actually let players play the game rather than trying to manipulate the relative power of offenses and defenses through arbitrary rules. :shrug:

Yes, because 30 years ago, football was played in its natural state the same way it had been played for thousands of years going back to hunter/gatherer societies in the fertile crescent.

:Poke:

Of course the freaking rules are arbitrary. It's just a game. I don't think it is unreasonable to tweak the rules from time to time. I think the balance on whole is reasonable. I wouldn't object if it was tilted back a little more to the defense but whatever.

But this idea that the refs can just stop throwing flags and the game will speed up. No. Maybe for a game or two but DBs and Offensive lineman (for just two examples) will just grab and hold, more and more until the refs start throwing flags again. Yes, you want them to be consistent and fair. But I think the too many flags argument is a non-starter.

WhiteWhale 11-02-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12524715)
Polls say Kaepernick is the main reason. It's really a hoot watching everyone on this thread desperate to dance around this issue, when its being told straight to your face by opinion pollsters asking actual folks.

I don't think it's simply the act, but the way the act has been covered.

While I don't have a problem with Kaep being a ****ing moron (and I could go on about why I think so) I think it's obnoxious how everyone is treating a brain dead silver spoon idiot who burps out bumper sticker slogans like he's Mohammad Ali protesting Vietnam.

Chief Pagan 11-02-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12524235)
I think the "what's a catch" is legit. When you controlled a ball when you stepped out of bounds (the instant the clock would stop because the play is over), it's easy to question.

That being said, I'll ask again, if a player catches a ball on a slant route, on the home team's logo, runs to the sideline and has the ball knocked out of his hands after he steps out, is that an incomplete pass? If not, why not (based on the ruling the other day)?

And that's a serious question. I'm not even asking about an edge pass to a WR in the corner of the end zone, I'm talking about somebody near the 50 yard line that's taken steps in bounds?

Under the current rules, if the player catches the ball while going to the ground, they have to maintain control even after they hit the ground regardless of whether they have gone out of bounds or are in the endzone.

In your example, I don't think you could run that far and still be considered going to the ground. Although I don't want to pretend that I know how long somebody could be stumbling along and still be considered going to the ground. But Kelce was going to the ground.

On a different note: as I commented in the other thread, I think the NFL should tweak the rule so that control, two feet down, and then touching out of bounds is a catch (same with endzone) and you no longer need control so Kelce would have been a catch.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-02-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12524759)
like he's Mohammad Ali protesting Vietnam.

It will be interesting to see how history remembers Kaepernick. Ali was once the most hated person in America.

(Cue "You're comparing Kaepernick to Ali" posts in T-minus five)

Buck 11-02-2016 06:24 PM

I bet you if the NFL put all the games on the internet for free with no blackout restrictions, it would triple in popularity.

CBS, FOX, ESPN, and NBC won't have any of that for now, but I'll be interested to see how the NFL goes about integrating more games for free onto the internet when those contracts are up.

DaneMcCloud 11-02-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 12524823)
I bet you if the NFL put all the games on the internet for free with no blackout restrictions, it would triple in popularity.

CBS, FOX, ESPN, and NBC won't have any of that for now, but I'll be interested to see how the NFL goes about integrating more games for free onto the internet when those contracts are up.

FREE?

Free equals zero revenues, which means the salary cap will decrease, players with options in baseball and basketball will turn to other sports and the league will fade away.


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