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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16556109)

Skill set.

He's still quick off the line and we don't have anyone who is.

He's a component this roster doesn't have from the edge.

Agreed, and to be honest I don't get anyone watching both he and Quinn this year and banging the table for Quinn but rejecting Hughes out of hand. Hughes is playing well in a turd team, and he's still, remarkably, quick. We really don't have another guy like that and even in a pretty limited role I think he offers a fair amount.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16556097)

I don't get the Hughes hype at all.

Why do we need another aging, mediocre DE who rarely gets to the QB again?

He'd basically be another Melvin Ingram-type signing. Probably get him for a 5th or 6th and he's scheduled to make slightly less than $6M over the next TWO seasons.

Who do you want them to get? Brian ****ing Burns isn't coming to KC.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16556133)

It's a deal for this year only. If it's the only option we have, why not try to throw bodies and see what might work or at least allow our DEs to be be more rotational and hopefully fresher?

Exactly. O just doesn't have any time for realistic trades. Gotta be the white whale variety for him to get excited.

KC doesn't need to sign anyone else to win the SB this year. Buffalo is the only other team that can challenge for the title...the Eagles are bullshit frauds. Considering KC would've comfortably beaten Buffalo if they hadn't stepped on their own dicks, why worry? Let shitheel teams like Denver and LV mortgage their futures for no reason.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16556099)

I was trying to think about the mechanics of how they'd do that.

I mean I guess the easy answer is a new contract that turns his salary next year into bonus this year and reduces his guaranteed salary next season.

But at a point what's the cash value of the draft pick? Or hell, the rollover value of the cap space?

Let's say in one hand you can move him for a 7th round pick to a team that's just willing to take the contract.

And on the other you can convert that $18 million in guarantees to $7 million in guarantees and $11 million in bonus that accelerates onto your cap. In so doing, you can get yourself a 3rd.

If you're the Texans, you're effectively buying a 3rd rounder for $11 million. You're writing him that check right then and there.

Is that worthwhile for the owner? Is it a good use of the cap space for the team? Because if you don't use it, you'll have it next season via the rollover mechanism.

There's gotta be a puke point in there somewhere, right?

I was just looking at his contract and apparently, there was some misreporting being done or something...

He has 1.17 of guaranteed salary this year and 8.11 million in bonus money. His salary goes up to 18 and 13 million in 2023 and 2024, respectively. They have the 8.11 million in bonus money tacked on in each of those years for cap hits of 26 and 21 million.

So, they are really just paying the balance of the 8.11 left this year, let's call it about 5 million, to pick up a 3rd-round pick provided they are intent on releasing him anyhow in the offseason.

If you can restructure a little of that money next year into a bonus, for example 5 million, you could have Cooks for 2 years at 15.5 million per. That's not bad for a guy that can get you 1100 yards in an offense taylor-made for his skill set.

Hughes and Cooks did not practice today. Not injury related

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16556142)

Who do you want them to get?

I'd rather they hold on to their picks rather than use them to throw shit at the wall.

Ya'll are basically spending a pick on an aging player who's been mediocre at best his entire career hoping that it'll somehow pan out.

To me, it looks like wasting a pick just to waste a pick.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16556154)

You could get Hughes for a 5th, possibly a 6th. We did the same exact thing with Melvin Ingram a year ago and worked out just fine. We won't miss those picks.

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16556153)

Hughes and Cooks did not practice today. Not injury related

:drool:

I still have hope on us swinging a trade for Sweat.

That guy would be an absolutely perfect fit across from Furious George.

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16556153)

Hughes and Cooks did not practice today. Not injury related

I heard they were helping load Tunsil's U-HAUL that's headed to KC?

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16556156)

You could get Hughes for a 5th, possibly a 6th. We did the same exact thing with Melvin Ingram a year ago and worked out just fine. We won't miss those picks.

We had a bigger need last year as we needed a warm body at DE so we could kick Jones back inside. I understand they have a different skillset, but Dunlap already fills that role.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16556164)

We had a bigger need last year as we needed a warm body at DE so we could kick Jones back inside. I understand they have a different skillset, but Dunlap already fills that role.

It would cost us virtually nothing to acquire Hughes. There's no reason not to try and improve this team everywhere they can.

Isn't Danna coming back soon?

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16556166)

It would cost us virtually nothing to acquire Hughes. There's no reason not to try and improve this team everywhere they can.

Yeah, i'd rather just keep the pick. I just dont think he's a net positive in any meaningful way other than depth. We're just gonna have to disagree on that one.