A 2nd round pick for a 29 year old LT is rape?

You know what would be sweet?

Trade Albert for both of Miamis 2s...trade down from first overall and add another 2 and take BPA...especially if Geno, Manuel or Barkley are still there.

Start Stephenson at LT and let him develop.

The kid has real talent and a really good skill set for the position. If he had stayed in school for 2012, he would be in the talk as a top 10 player this year because he was a better player than Lane Johnson on that line.

Now, if they want to trade down into the teens while adding a second rounder for the move down and take Cooper/Wormack I'd be ok with that.

That's close enough for me, seriously and without a lick of sarcasm or any bullshit, good job.

I'd even be semi ok with that situation if we only got ONE of Miami's 2nd round picks. Worst case scenario is that they trade Albert for a 2nd and then take a LT at 1.1. Horrible.

If we end up with a #1 pick and 2 seconds, could we trade up past the #1 pick and get back into last year's draft?

You do realize Olinemen play well into their 30s right?

ROFL:clap:

ROFL

Technically yes, because we could trade for players that are on rosters now that were drafted last season. But it's starts backwards. Trading past #1 gets you Mr. Irrelevant :D

LMAO

I posted an article in this thread that gave a pretty good analysis of the play of LT's and how they age.

They may play deep into their 30s but that doesn't mean their production stays solid.

LMAO You're hilarious, man.

That would be refreshing...
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Apparently if you play in the NFL for five years now you're a brokedick.

Apparently you've managed to master one thing in your life - hyperbole.

No one is saying that. At all.

What I did post was an article that shows how tackles decline once they hit their 30th birthday. Is it gospel? No, it's just a resource.

However, what this prior regime did to Albert was probably shorten his career by 2-3 years simply by changing their demands on what they wanted from their lineman every other year.

I have no problem getting a 2nd round pick for Albert when a month and a half ago he had one foot out the door.

I'm working on it...

https://www.profilesinhistory.com/wp...e-delorean.jpg

Some offensive lineman play well into their 30's. It's certainly not a given.

Good one's play much later...

They just had another part about Miami and Albert and "clarified" that Miami is willing to give up "one of their second round picks"

The gal that made the "both" comment earlier must have misspoke.

Complete speculation.

For all we know Albert will play until he's 35.

This is just a question, could the Chiefs let the dolphins offer Albert a contract to set the market so they could work on their own deal for him?

I believe so; if Chiefs choose not to match, Fins would have to give up picks.

I don't believe that would happen. I mean if we were saying we are thinking about trading with them, could we see what they offer Albert and see if its a number we could do. Maybe Albert thinks he's worth more than he really is.

The chiefs have been telling teams what Albert wants.

Why not? Nothing is final until the trade is done.

But then you are getting into the same grey area that we talked about with the Smith deal and not going through with it when the league date came around.
I think integrity is a big thing with Dorsey/Reid I doubt they would do such a thing.

Gotta admit, this made me laugh pretty good.

I've decided I petty much hate Andy Reid's ****ing fat guts until further notice.
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:deevee:

"we must give them a chance to implement their plan"! Yeah, no.
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Oh I know you love Fatboy and Alice, but you're pretty much a useless, douchey, and younger version of Skip Towne. So there's that.
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As long as we don't take that Luck dude, he is NOT elite!!

You are so ****ing full of shit, Methboy.

But it IS fun to see you whine and cry like the ****ing pathetic bitch you are, each and every day.

LMAO

Woman.

This.

Great take, Skip!
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We're pissing away 1.1

If they don't win IMMEDIATELY, they can go **** themselves.

A playoff appearance by year two is REQUIRED if this goes down.

You're being too generous in giving them a year after what they've just pulled.
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ROFL 2-14 to a playoff team in a season after going through a regime change JFC ROFL

If you guys think you are pissed about the potential trade....go read the comments on the NBS Sports Talk app about this. The Dolphins fans are furious with Ireland, their GM.

Only the whiniest of ****s log in to Chiefsplanet to bitch every day.

Good job, Herpes Dick.

Yeah, yeah. I remember when it was for sure Bowe was going to South Beach as well. In fact I think the thread had the exact same title.

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe 7s

Reid says reports that they gave the #dolphins permission to talk to Albert are false #chiefs

Hmm. Do we get a pick this year from tampering?


Holy shit. What if this was all a trick by KC to steal a pick via tampering from Miami? /Conspiracy Keanu

I think that's the aim. They seem to want to free cap space and build the team with their players. I'll be completely convinced if they take a QB with the 2nd.

I still really like the Andy Reid and John Dorsey hires. I just don't agree with the way they started out here and it's totally possible the moves they are making are the best ones for the team...it just sucks that it seems like this is nothing more than us watching the same shitty movie again because of the teams history.

I hope it all works out because it's been a few years since Chiefs football was fun to watch and I'd like to enjoy the games again.

My hope is that Alex Smith shows that he can handle throwing the ball a lot more and that he will be able to maintain his ability to protect the ball and field position while taking advantage of the weapons he will have at his disposal.

I'd love to be wrong about these moves...if I/we are wrong about these things, we have a good chance to be the next 49ers type turnaround team.

Should be interesting to see how Alex Smith handles throwing the ball 600 times (Foles and Vick combined for 616 pass attempts) when he hasn't ever thrown more than 445 times in his career.

Can he keep his interceptions low while throwing so much more?
Will he be able to get the ball out faster to avoid sacks?
Will he be able to stay healthy?

These are the questions that could swing this trade drastically in either direction.

If he is able to do well in those things, the trade could end up being a steal and the guy can win us some really big games...if he isn't, we will all know what Cbase Daniels does with his chance.

No, they seem to want to build a team for the NEXT QB they think will appear by magic...

And-a one, two, three, fo':
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Did save our chiefs sell out they just deleted my post that said Kc chiefs where making lateral moves is ok lol. Wow.

I think Albert's been gone for a while. He's 1)coming off a back injury-and when these guys start having back problems, they don't usually get better, 2) wants top 3 LT money-and while he's been GOOD, I don't think he's really THAT good, and 3) publicly refused to move to RT to help the team.

So let's get this straight-your new GM and head coach are supposed to overpay a 320 lb. man coming off a half season due to back problems as if he is one of-if-not-the best left tackle in the game though he is probably like the 10th best tackle in the game. To top it off, he's going to publicly state that he'll ONLY play LEFT tackle, and wouldn't switch to help the team.

Yes, you could win a SB with Albert. NO, you're probably not going to win a SB by overpaying players who are legitimate injury concerns and that publicly challenge the team leadership by refusing to move anywhere else if it helps the team.

I think this anger at the forthcoming trade is based on the desire for Geno Smith to be a franchise QB. If he's NOT-and it appears that Reid and Dorsey don't think he IS-then this draft is the kind of draft where there's just not a sure-fire #1 worthy pick. Especially not a QB. In which case, if they think the best player is a Tackle, well, I wish it was a QB too-and I bet nobody wishes it more than Reid and Dorsey. But it ain't. Wishing it to be isn't going to help. Sucks to have that #1 when it's not worth much, but that appears to be the situation. Getting mad at Dorsey and Reid right now doesn't make much sense.

Now, if Geno goes somewhere and lights it up, you can be irritated-but getting a #2 rather than overpaying for a guy that's just not worth what he's asking is not a reason to flip out.

I'm not an Alex Smith fan either, but I am in the wait and see camp. Reid has certainly done a lot with less. You can't look at the Albert trade as part of the Smith deal. They're only connected in the way that they were both things Dorsey/Reid felt they had to do. Smith was the best vet QB available in a year in which there are no franchise QB's in the draft. Albert wants too much. What are they supposed to do?

Now Albert played a half season? LMAO

The legend grows.

Before long he'll have AIDS.

FYP

He missed 3 games!!! Thats half! didnt you know? Half of 16 is 3 now.

2/3rds. It's worth being accurate, but it doesn't really impact the argument much.

That's as misleading as saying he only played half the season.

He played more than 2/3s.

No, he played less, but I was generous.

You no good at math

Do you know how many games are in an NFL season?

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 1m

I'll also say that I hardly think there's a consensus in the Dolphins' building that going after Branden Albert is the way to go.

You fixed it to not even being anything remotely resembling English...

Basically following the Pioli plan. Good news.

Has it been brought up that Albert may just be asking too much $$ from the Chiefs so that they won't/can't sign him and to force a trade? If he signs for much less than expected to play in Miami that will be the only thing I can think of.

And the fact that Albert Breer knows this probably means it's bullshit and they are trying to get Chiefs to settle for the higher 2nd round pick.

Winner. Tried writing a similar post earlier but got caught up.

Maybe not, but I guess I'm better at it than you.

Yes, I do.

According to PFF, Matt Cassel took 593 snaps last year. Brady Quinn took another 492. That's a total of 1085 snaps for the season. 2/3rds of that is 723.33. Branden Albert took 722.

That's an excellent breakdown. People get too hung up on games played when its the snaps that matter.

Well according to football outsiders he played 67% of snaps. Still more than 2/3s :).
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Has it been brought up that he's now a LT, wants to continue playing a position he's good at, and we're ready to trade him for that alone?...

LAST YEAR...

If your boss wanted you to take a demotion even though you had performed very well at your current position, would you be happy to take it?

Once again, would you take a demotion to help your company?

Same question.

?

It's funny people act like football players should just accept anything the coach tells them. If your boss wanted to move you from the most important position at in your department to the 3rd most important, you'd tell him to piss off. But because Albert is a football player, he can't do that. LMAO

I'm pretty sure we could trade a 6th to get him back as a 3rd QB...

Can we merge the two albert threads?

How is it a demotion when he's being paid among the top five left tackles?

NO!

NEIN!

Really? You think that people that are paid millions per year tell their CEO to **** off if they've been reassigned?

How old are you and what's your experience in the corporate world?

They rounded up.

Clay, did you say this is the Brandon Carr situation all over again? It's not. Carr didn't want to be here, Albert wants paid. We're at least getting good value if we get the higher 2nd rounder. 2nd round high pick for a LT that's 29 coming off back spasms last year is pretty good. I want Albert back. I'm a fan of his but if this regime isn't keen on giving him big money with the way they feel his body is, then I will support them. I will support this regime until they prove me wrong.

Under the tag yes, but I believe he's pointing to the possibility they want to move him to RT and as a RT he would make less if he were to sign an extension.

First off, Albert can play out the tag and sign elsewhere next year. And quite frankly, there's no one in the league that's going to pay him nearly $10 million per to play right tackle.

I'll be shocked if he even gets $9 million, whether its the Dolphins or another team.