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Yes but Mortensen also said we should take Joeckel because there are no franchise Qb in this draft.
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so youre saying we have to wait until the year 2014. **** that ****ing garbage |
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More things change. |
If Smith does come here, I absolutely think they are still going to take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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What are your thoughts on A Smith? |
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Cassell 2.0
The only reason smith was good was because he had a all pro line, a all pro defense, and some good weapons on offense. |
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The only cause for hope I would have is that the guy really played well last year before he got hurt, and that he'd be coming here with an offensive staff that can coach up QBs. If they took a QB early in the draft and had him, I would let it play out, but I'm not happy about another retread ultimately. I think someone like Tyler Bray would be the ultimate risk/reward guy to pair with Smith. |
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If they are going to draft one in the 2nd then just ****ing start him. Please give away a 4th round pick(essentially a 3rd) plus paying a guy a decent amount just so we can have a "vet" QB while the other guy learns. Just ****ing put the guy in. I don't give a **** about winning 9 games with Alex Smith. QB's don't need years off to sit unless they are incredibly raw. This isn't 2002. I made it 10 minutes before I let this piss me off before it even happened. |
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He'd pretty much be a stop gap, until they could either find the next guy or get the next guy ready. But, with the way the rookies are now, I really don't think you need a stop gap to get him ready. This would be extremely disappointing, IMO, and if they do this, they better damn well win next year. |
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But if we're looking for "better" than Cassel, shouldn't be to terribly tough to find. |
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I wouldn't say "far better" nor "shit ton better". Maybe, a little better.
They both had 'a' good season. Nothing more than a pair of medicore-game managing-noodle armed backups. |
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I think that the QBs that have come out lately have spoiled everyone. I think if they got the Alex Smith that was in SF last year they'd win a lot. I think this defense is going to be a bear to deal with next year. I think the attacking one gap defense is a perfect fit for Poe and we will see true playmakers shine in it. 70% completion, 13/5 TD ratio in basically 9 1/4th games isn't horrendous. That's basically a 23/10 ratio over the course of a season. Smith is still only 28, so that's another plus. I'm just trying to find the editable parts of this shit sandwich. |
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Wonder what kind of contract he's going to want...just assuming he's going to want big $$$$
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The one thing I cant stand is Cassel 2.0. Alex Smith won a ****ing playoff game, Cassel hasnt done shit
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Plus, I'm a believer that even with sitting, he's still going to have a learning period after that and I'd rather him just learn in the fire. And if you think the defense will be a bear, woudln't it make more sense to let your rookie QB lean on them early and our running game to get his feet wet? ****, I just don't think I have it in me for another retread. I said it last night about FOles, say it again here. This is just too damn familiar and I feel pretty ****ing dirty even entertaining the idea. Yeah, his last year wasn't horrendous, neither was 2011. Neither was Matt Cassel's 2010 or 08. |
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For Chiefs fans that want Geno Smith, I wouldn't panic. I've dealt with Andy Reid for 14 years and one thing I can tell you with absolute certainty is no one knows what Reid is doing in the draft. Guys in Philadelphia that covered the team for decades couldn't even predict what he'd do.
Even one of the best insiders in the business in Adam Schefter said a few years ago that the Eagles traded up for Earl Thomas, and it was actually Brandon Graham. Just let it play out. Maybe the Chiefs will go after Alex Smith, but Reid usually keeps things tight-lipped and I would believe very little that comes out. |
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I don't think so, but I'm not positive. Thats not anything to do with Cassel, but that team is ****ing loaded. |
We're pretty much locked in at 1 and we'll get ****ing ass holed if we trade down.
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Imagine that Kyle Williams doesn't fumble that punt in '11 and they get a FG to go to the SB to face the Pats.
Gotta wonder if that would have changed Alex Smith's reputation. |
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the guys best 10 game sample of his career is averaging 170 yards per game with a super bowl caliber coach and super bowl type roster of talent
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Pretty much my feeling on this is **** a retread. I know he's not a bad player, had a good year or two etc. I get that.
But **** it. It's not rational thought, but it is what it is. |
We trade for Alex Smith, draft Luke Joeckel they start...then I just don't ****ing watch this team this fall.
I can totally see this being the case right now. |
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I'm having a newborn in August, so I'd say I can find some other things to do on Sunday. |
if they are going to trade him its going to be before FA or during FA.
they wont trade him on draft day. FA is when to do it, they need to trade his 8.5 million and so they can splurge on a FA #1 CB, Talib, Grimes, Cary Williams, who ever the **** they think is worth it, there is a ton of them and they will spend that. But trading Smith before the FA market starts is the key. if they dont trade him before FA and lose out on all those CBs they are just going to keep him and foot the bill with that said, this will either be happening in the next couple weeks or it wont be. So we just got to survive until the end of March and we are good. (if they pushed FA back then its April, same concept) |
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For for no other reason than to shut the national media the **** up about the Chiefs offensive line. |
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Last year pissed me off enough with Poe. This year would be it. |
nothing to be pissed about with Poe in round 1
everything to be pissed about the garbage players taken after Poe in rounds 2-7 and who we passed over in all of those rounds |
I can really see us doing something like this: draft Joeckel and trade back into round 1 for a QB.
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He got his ass kicked this year because he played OT mostly in college. |
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I'd rather shoot for greatness at the QB spot and fail, than settle for just good enough or mediocrity.
But my job isn't on the line. |
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I don't have to worry about it anymore. I'll be moving on. |
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That's all that matters. The guy is dogshit and we're supposed to eat it and act like it tastes good? **** that. And **** the Chiefs if they're even considering this. |
Cutting Cassel and trading for Smith would cost the Chiefs $12.5 million.
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In 13 MORE starts, he has 1 less TD, 6 more picks, and only 785 more yards. |
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We dismiss Cassels 2 good seasons because he played the NFC West but Alex Smith has played in that division his whole career and has never played as good as Cassel played. |
If they are serious about restructuring Cassel, it's for him to be a backup. They trade for Smith, he'll start.
I doubt they spend a 2 or 3 round pick on a developmental guy to be the 3rd stringer this year at that point. |
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Seahawks fans. |
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Reid thought very highly of Jeff Allen and he was a ****ing rookie playing a new position last year. |
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It seems a little pathetic really, like a child throwing a temper tantrum. And it is sadly all too common on this forum. |
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It's not that they made A move I didn't like. It's that they've made HUNDREDS OF MOVES I didn't like. I was literally HALF THE AGE I am now the last time they won a playoff game. So you can take your sanctimonious self-righteous bullshit and shove it up your ass. |
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Reid wants playmaker QBs who can be depended upon to put the game on their backs to win in the 4th quarter when need be. Donovan,Michael and Nick(high potential but unfinished project) can do this. Alex Smith is a system game manager type QB. He is not a playmaker QB that can 'at any moment' be a game changer type of QB plain and simple. Look it. Dorsey = Favre and Rodgers. Reid = McNabb and Vick. Smith ? Really ?? |
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but what are the options at pick 1 A) QB B) Joeckel C) Chance Warmack well this thread is about Alex ****ing Smith and if any shred about this pile of shit player coming to KC is true then guess what, the #1 picks will be option B or C. And if it's option C, I will remember to come find your posts, re-quote them and laugh. I think Jeff Allen sucks, but I dont think he sucks to the point you waste a #1 overall pick to replace him. |
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Allen is only going to get better. |
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