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Mav 03-10-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9482841)
Further, if you believe that Alex Smith played the good soldier after he was benched for other than selfish reasons, I imagine there are other myths that you believe in, as well.

you dont know alex smith. It was not selfish on his part at all. Thats the way he has always been. Thats who he is. It hurts him a lot, because he doesnt have any diva in him. Brett Favre blowing off aaron rodgers and making a public stink about coaches wanting him to mentor him, and refusing to do it, probably kept him around in green bay at least one year longer than ted thompson really wanted to.

Alex Smith had he become a true distraction this year, could of really ruined things.

Mav 03-10-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJay (Post 9482434)
Someone would have to be in love with him to take him that high..It may happen, but I don't want him in the 1st...He's a USC guy...Just look at that list of QBs that have come out of that system in the last few years..

rumor is, and its a strong one that he wont make it past arians at 7. seems logical, geno smith is not an arians type. he wants a more traditional passer.

milkman 03-10-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9482863)
you dont know alex smith. It was not selfish on his part at all. Thats the way he has always been. Thats who he is. It hurts him a lot, because he doesnt have any diva in him. Brett Favre blowing off aaron rodgers and making a public stink about coaches wanting him to mentor him, and refusing to do it, probably kept him around in green bay at least one year longer than ted thompson really wanted to.

Alex Smith had he become a true distraction this year, could of really ruined things.

People who think they know athletes, celebrities, or anyone in the public eye are idiots.

mcaj22 03-10-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9482879)
People who think they know athletes, celebrities, or anyone in the public eye are idiots.

in Alex Smith's defense

he has the #1 charity in ALL OF PRO SPORTS that actually acts like a non-profit and does NOT pocket the money. They give back at like 91% of the proceeds and that is ****ing amazing when you think about it.

Guy's llike A-Rod and their charities donate like 1 percent and keep the rest for themselves.

So really, Alex Smith IS one of the best professionals in sports, he's just a really shitty player due to his limited athletic skill set.

Matt Cassel was also a nice guy too, didnt get him very far on the field.

Mav 03-10-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9482879)
People who think they know athletes, celebrities, or anyone in the public eye are idiots.

there is always one thing you know about an athelete. When you destroy a locker room ala terrell owens, when you leave, your teammates TRASH YOU, your front office trashes you, they label you a cancer.

Alex Smiths teammates, have done nothing but commend him. Trent Baalke who never liked alex smith, complimented him, kaep has complimented him, aldon smith, vernon davis. In most forms you are right. No one has ever had a bad thing to say about the guy off the field or as a leader. Its his inability to play at a high level that gets him trashed.

So, i agree with you, but in this instance you are incorrect.

mcaj22 03-10-2013 12:55 PM

i'd love to see that wishlist Alex Smith gave the 49ers of teams he wanted to play for

probably had 5 teams on it at max that he knew he had a snowflakes chance of starting for.

Coogs 03-10-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9482876)
rumor is, and its a strong one that he wont make it past arians at 7. seems logical, geno smith is not an arians type. he wants a more traditional passer.

I thought Geno was a more traditional passer?!?! :shrug:

BossChief 03-10-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9483051)
I thought Geno was a more traditional passer?!?! :shrug:

More like Vince young and Akili Smith.

ChiefMojo 03-10-2013 01:49 PM

Hmmmmm, will he be the #2 CB???...

Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen

Will Dunta Robinson start at CB for Chiefs? His contract suggests no. Here are figures from a source: $4 million http://sulia.com/my_thoughts/e4326a2...source=twitter

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9483089)
Hmmmmm, will he be the #2 CB???...

Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen

Will Dunta Robinson start at CB for Chiefs? His contract suggests no. Here are figures from a source: $4 million http://sulia.com/my_thoughts/e4326a2...source=twitter

Great deal for chiefs

The Franchise 03-10-2013 01:52 PM

Damn good deal for your FS.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9483095)
Damn good deal for your FS.

Yup

The Franchise 03-10-2013 01:54 PM

Bye bye Kendrick Lewis.

BossChief 03-10-2013 01:55 PM

3-15 4guaranteed.

I bet he doesn't see the whole contract if its backloaded.

BossChief 03-10-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9483099)
Bye bye Kendrick Lewis.

To the bench anyway.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9483099)
Bye bye Kendrick Lewis.

I agree Lewis would save chiefs 1.3m in cap room

ChiefMojo 03-10-2013 02:02 PM

No way we part with Lewis that quickly. He is an above average backup if Dunta truly moves to FS.

Lewis > Pisdick, Elam, Hartman, McGraw, whomever...

Jerm 03-10-2013 02:05 PM

We should be moving Berry back to FS....

O.city 03-10-2013 02:09 PM

Lewis can be what he always shoulda been, a backup subpackage center fielder special teams FS.

Easy 6 03-10-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9483116)
No way we part with Lewis that quickly. He is an above average backup if Dunta truly moves to FS.

Lewis > Pisdick, Elam, Hartman, McGraw, whomever...

Agreed on all, he doesnt wow anyone but he is good, young veteran depth.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-10-2013 02:15 PM

Or....we can cut bait.
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-King- 03-10-2013 02:20 PM

Lewis would be a pretty good backup. No way I'd cut him.

ChiefMojo 03-10-2013 02:33 PM

Teams are always looking for quality depth. Why part with a guy who you know can play. Injury concerns and the amount plays he's seen over the course of the past couple of seasons indicate Lewis has value, but likely not as a starter.

BossChief 03-10-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9483095)
Damn good deal for your FS.

**** that.

5 million per year for a converted corner projecting to safety at 31 years old is a good deal when William Moore just inked for 5/30?

The only good part is that the only guaranteed part is the first year.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-10-2013 02:38 PM

Berry will start at Free and Abdullah at SS.

O.city 03-10-2013 02:39 PM

William Moore isn't a free safety or IMO he wouldn't be a very good one. If he inked that with Atl, obviously he wasn't getting much play from elsewhere.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9483204)
**** that.

5 million per year for a converted corner projecting to safety at 31 years old is a good deal when William Moore just inked for 5/30?

The only good part is that the only guaranteed part is the first year.

What part of back loaded don't you get? He will never see that money. Low cap number in 2013 is all that matters.

WV 03-10-2013 02:41 PM

Can't help but still loath pioli for letting Carr walk.

Hammock Parties 03-10-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9483211)
Berry will start at Free and Abdullah at SS.

I forgot about Abdullah.

We have some nice competition for that 2nd safety spot between Lewis, Robinson and Abdullah.

O.city 03-10-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9483247)
I forgot about Abdullah.

We have some nice competition for that 2nd safety spot between Lewis, Robinson and Abdullah.

Add to that hopeuflly getting Berry out of playing ****ing LBer.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-10-2013 02:58 PM

Abdullah was a might fine sleeper signing. Dude was a pretty solid player, let's see how the rust effects him.

BossChief 03-10-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9483218)
What part of back loaded don't you get? He will never see that money. Low cap number in 2013 is all that matters.

Learn to read, twitter boy.

YayMike 03-10-2013 03:15 PM

Wow, is that report is accurate, that's a really good sign. This just shows how shitty Pioli was at his job....

Bewbies 03-10-2013 03:18 PM

4 mil guaranteed means its a 1 yr deal.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-10-2013 03:19 PM

The Cheese Domino's must have been cold in Denver.

Easy 6 03-10-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9483247)
I forgot about Abdullah.

We have some nice competition for that 2nd safety spot between Lewis, Robinson and Abdullah.

I forgot as well, and you're right... thats a pretty nice group to work with.

HolyHat 03-10-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9483326)
4 mil guaranteed means its a 1 yr deal.

Exactly.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-10-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 9483331)
The Cheese Domino's must have been cold in Denver.

LMAO

Mother****erJones 03-10-2013 08:46 PM

Good deal, waiting to see who else we get Tuesday

Sorter 03-10-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9483247)
I forgot about Abdullah.

We have some nice competition for that 2nd safety spot between Lewis, Robinson and Abdullah.

Somewhere, Romeo is like "Are you guys ****ing kidding me?"

TambaBerry 03-10-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink (Post 9483340)
Exactly.

This and if he performs well we can keep him on for 2 more years.

jimw51 03-11-2013 12:48 AM

Nickel back not a starter but a good hitter

Chiefspants 03-11-2013 02:14 AM

Wow, is that what positional depth looks like? And to think, I was tickled pink with the "competition" Scott brought in for his boy Cassel last year!

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-11-2013 08:46 AM

Sean Smith - DB - Dolphins

"Multiple sources" tell Yahoo the Chiefs haven't ruled out signing free agent "such as" CB Sean Smith despite giving Dunta Robinson a three-year deal.
Per Yahoo's Jason Cole, the Chiefs would like to have a strong trio of corners. This could also be an indication they're planning to use Robinson at safety. New coach Andy Reid apparently wasn't deterred by the Eagles' high-dollar disaster at corner his final two years in town.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-11-2013 10:36 AM

Dunta Robinson - DB - Chiefs

One NFL agent told the Denver Post that the Chiefs indeed plan to use Dunta Robinson at safety.
It's believed Robinson signed a three-year, $15 million contract with $4 million guaranteed, money befitting a free safety as opposed to a starting corner. A striker in the running game, Robinson has also been an efficient tackling cornerback. The position change would explain Kansas City's continued interest in corners. They still haven't publicly stated Robinson's position.

Sassy Squatch 03-11-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9484898)
Dunta Robinson - DB - Chiefs

One NFL agent told the Denver Post that the Chiefs indeed plan to use Dunta Robinson at safety.
It's believed Robinson signed a three-year, $15 million contract with $4 million guaranteed, money befitting a free safety as opposed to a starting corner. A striker in the running game, Robinson has also been an efficient tackling cornerback. The position change would explain Kansas City's continued interest in corners. They still haven't publicly stated Robinson's position.

Nice. You could do worse than Robinson and Berry.

-King- 03-11-2013 10:55 AM

So are they going to eventually switch berry to FS and Robinson to SS since Robinson is a good tackler?
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journeyscarab 03-13-2013 10:23 AM

Chiefs Sign CB Dunta Robinson
 
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#Chiefs Sign CB Dunta Robinson kcchiefs.com/news/article-2…

Bowser 03-13-2013 10:23 AM

Where to start.....

jd1020 03-13-2013 10:23 AM

Again?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-13-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9492697)
Again?

So really a 6 year deal worth 30m lol

DenverChief 03-13-2013 10:24 AM

they never formally announced it

journeyscarab 03-13-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9492702)
So really a 6 year deal worth 30m lol

Well he's that good! LMAO

mlyonsd 03-13-2013 10:30 AM

Ro ro raggy

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-13-2013 10:30 AM

dual threat

Sofa King 03-13-2013 12:22 PM

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ShowtimeSBMVP 03-15-2013 02:38 PM

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Robinson, BTW, made it clear he's a corner and not a safety.

The Franchise 03-15-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9502493)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Robinson, BTW, made it clear he's a corner and not a safety.

Well our CBs are set. Flowers and Smith on the outside. Robinson in the slot and Arenas at dime.

Mr. Laz 03-15-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9502493)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Robinson, BTW, made it clear he's a corner and not a safety.

arenas is not going to like that sound of that

mcaj22 03-15-2013 02:44 PM

yea no way Arenas stands for that

two crappier guys in front him with bigger contracts. He's realistically better than both on paper, which is the ironic part

The Bad Guy 03-15-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9502522)
yea no way Arenas stands for that

two crappier guys in front him with bigger contracts. He's realistically better than both on paper, which is the ironic part

In an attacking defense? No way is Arenas better.

ArrowheadMagic 03-15-2013 02:57 PM

Arenas could move to FS.

The Bad Guy 03-15-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 9502576)
Arenas could move to FS.

Absolutely could.

I still think they are looking to add someone. I think Abdullah has the inside track.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 03:00 PM

There is no way I want last line of defense being someone as slow or short as Arenas.

Dunta said he was a CB but the CHIEFS didn't say that. He needs to be FS, because he's honestly worse than Sean Smith at CB.

The Franchise 03-15-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9502581)
Absolutely could.

I still think they are looking to add someone. I think Abdullah has the inside track.

I'd rather see Abdullah at FS.

MTG#10 03-15-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9502581)
Absolutely could.

I still think they are looking to add someone. I think Abdullah has the inside track.

Abdullah will likely get arrested for going Belcher on our new RT/G during training camp.

ArrowheadMagic 03-15-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9502581)
Absolutely could.

I still think they are looking to add someone. I think Abdullah has the inside track.

Cant have too much depth. let it play out in TC. cut dead weight. Reid has no alliance. Actual competition.

ArrowheadMagic 03-15-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9502584)
There is no way I want last line of defense being someone as slow or short as Arenas.

Dunta said he was a CB but the CHIEFS didn't say that. He needs to be FS, because he's honestly worse than Sean Smith at CB.

The one problem with Arenas being FS. But Chiefs will play a lot of dime and nickle. Got to have depth.

BossChief 03-15-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9502587)
I'd rather see Abdullah at FS.

I'd like to see the cut Studebaker and sign Michael Huff.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-15-2013 03:06 PM

Did Boss Chief just quit Studebaker?

Urc Burry 03-15-2013 03:07 PM

I'm betting Robinson is used similar to Charles Woodson..

mcaj22 03-15-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9502562)
In an attacking defense? No way is Arenas better.

you could make a solid argument that Arenas is better at CB2 and/or Slot CB than both Smith and Dunta

Ill give you Smith at outside CB, but Arenas is better in coverage than both of them, and is just as good in run support as Dunta, Dunta is definitely a better run stopper but Dunta cant cover the broad side of a barn, Javier Arenas can actually kind of cover a guy every once in awhile.

Sean Smith is a flat out burn victim but has all the god given physical tools that Arenas lacks.

I know Javier is slow, and has already peaked with little upside, but Dunta has 1 leg and lost 100 steps, this isnt 26 year old Houston Texans "pay me" Dunta that was pure speed before he ripped his hamstring right off his bone and became slow as quicksand. This Dunta is just a crafty hard hitting smart veteran, but he is also limited these days. And Sean Smith is slow period, so yea.

they all have their pros and cons, I would say Javier has more consistency than both, you know what you are getting with him.

BossChief 03-15-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9502606)
Did Boss Chief just quit Studebaker?

That happened while you were gone.

Can't win em all.

Nightfyre 03-15-2013 03:22 PM

I just really like Arenas in that nickel spot. He blitzes as well as any corner in the league.

BossChief 03-15-2013 03:23 PM

Maybe they want Arenas to focus on special teams.

Mr. Laz 03-15-2013 03:26 PM

Arenas is probably the best guy we have to cover Welker

Mr. Laz 03-15-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9502646)
Maybe they want Arenas to focus on special teams.

isn't Avery a returner too?

ArrowheadMagic 03-15-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9502646)
Maybe they want Arenas to focus on special teams.

cant have enough cover guys. free up your safeties to roam. possibilities.

Bootlegged 03-15-2013 03:30 PM

CB1: Flowers
CB2: Smith
FS: Taliban Husain Abdullah
SS: Berry
CB3: Dunta
CB4: Javier

OLB1: Hali
OLB2: Houston
ILB: DJ
ILB2: James Anderson (FA formerly of Panthers)

DT: DeVito (Draft pick)
NT: Poe
DT: Jackson (Draft pick)

KurtCobain 03-15-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 9502666)
CB1: Flowers
CB2: Smith
FS: Taliban Husain Abdullah
SS: Berry
CB3: Dunta
CB4: Javier

OLB1: Hali
OLB2: Houston
ILB: DJ
ILB2: James Anderson (FA formerly of Panthers)

DT: DeVito (Draft pick)
NT: Poe
DT: Jackson (Draft pick)

That looks like a top ten defense on paper.


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