Mujica as a closer, bad.

Mujica as a 7nth inning/4th reliever, good.

This isn't the bullpen's fault right now. Wacha needs to learn to keep his shit together.

LOL at Ellis swinging at a ball 36" from his bat.

We kept man ass (aa stuff who relys on luck and gypsies for outs) and some other trash asses out there who we won't even let throw.

And in regards to Wong, what is Ellis currently doing that Wong couldn't?

It's our bullpens fault because we have 3 maybe 4 guys out there that our manager trusts, hence we run starting pitching into the ground when it's obvious two batters before that he's out of gas.

So round about, it's our managers fault

Hit the ball out of the infield?

Then slowly get picked off first?

I think Wong was sent down because they identified a pattern with his swing they think he needs to fix while not giving up an out every at bat.

Ellis is a known commodity so he gets the benefit of the doubt. That being said I think Wong is getting jerked around a little bit but I like the idea of pulling up Garcia and whateverthe**** his name is when Wong and Robinson have struggles.

Tells players if they produce they get called up. Its worked in the past.

This is the same organization that trotted Pete kozma out there damn near every day.

Some times it's head scratching.

That's why jay in the 2 hole after carp is a bit unorthodox.

I know he hasn't hit yet, but just put Bourjos in CF and let him play.

The problem there was there really was no other option because they hosed that up.

That being said not many teams have SS depth. Its a weird situation these days. I almost think elite prospect type players dont want to play SS anymore because of the defensive work involved.

Kozma was one if the worst players, statistically, to ever have that many at bats. I agree that situation was hosed up, but literally anyone else would have been better

Are you trolling? Bench Wong, but Ellis sucks, but play Bourjos?

No

Play Wong and Bourjos.

Why not just stay with Martinez there (10 pitches in the 8th)?

Instead of doubling switching and taking out your cleanup hitter?

****.

How not to manage by Mike Matheny.

Wasted that lead off double.

So let me get this straight:

Matheny thinks that Jon Jay should hit in the 2 hole rather than the 8 hole or the ****ing bench.

Matheny puts the pitcher's spot in the four hole, removing the guy who has been his best hitter this season in the process, and offering Holliday no protection.

Then, he feels that the best use of a lead off double is to bring Bourjos in to bunt.

On top of that, Bourjos ****ing butchers the bunt and Jay, who can win the game with a walk, HBP, or even taking a wild pitch, decides to swing at the first offering.

What horrible ****ing baseball.

Mujica is a turd. F him and Salas.

Yes, that is correct.

Couple things. If you're bound and determined to bunt, why not just let one of your starting pitchers come on and bunt instead of burning a bench player?

After the first bunt attempt, let Bourjus swing away.

Why double switch and take out Adams?

Like I said earlier, just put Bourjus in CF, hit him in the 8 hole, but Peralta in the 2 hole.

Wow. Grichuk's swing is long.

Yes, way too long.

Taveras is raking in Memphis by the way.

Would Jay fetch anything in a trade at this point? Like maybe a decent reliever?

God **** I hate Jon Jay.

So God forbid Wong isn't hitting, but I've got to continue to watch John Jay be trotted out there because?

He'd probably fetch about what Bourjos would, which is to say Fernando Salas, maybe a Maikel Cleito type.

And in comes Cape Canaveral Maness.

Atleast Bourjus has upside in terms of defense and potential to hit.

Jay is what he is.

First ****ing play and the dude hits one to third that Carpenter likely gets to easily. Great job, Matheny, you dumb ****ing ****.

Why do that? Just, why?

Choate threw six pitches the last inning. They could have run him out there again and kept a better defensive setup. Instead, Matheny decides to run his worst bullpen option out there and simultaneously weaken two defensive spots.

Why in the titty **** is Maness used before Siegrist?

Sometimes I feel he makes moves, just to make moves.

Just throw something close, he'll swing at it.

Jesus.

Well whaddya ****in' know?

I hate sports.

A pitcher who relies on the double play to get outs is useless.

No no, keep watching, now we have Descalso in the 4 hole.

Managing a baseball game isn't that hard, or atleast, not as hard as Matheny makes it.

That was the phat one to drive.

Jesus. That was a fat ****ing slider and he just missed it.

Come on meat, give him that shit 1 time.

****ing 87 MPH fastball.

Just missed that shit.

The Cardinals had a runner on 2 base in the 9th, 10th, and 12th (once or twice with less than 2 outs) and couldn't score a run.

Yes, the manager absolutely botched mutliple situations, but ****, somebody's gotta get a hit.

Welllll that was as ugly as our season has went so far. Matheny has a lot to answer for in this game. But, this loss was on the players for not hitting the ball and executing.

Gotta win the next 2 now, with Lynn and Miller going.

How can a major league team not recognize a wheel play?

Holliday Borjous and Matheny just stood there and did not recognize it.
How does that happen at this level LOL?

They didn't have to recognize it. They lined up like a wheel play. It wasn't some kind of fakeout because they executed the wheel play on the previous pitch.

Someone should have said wait, call the bunt off.

Ya I could not believe what I was watching.

And Maness could use a trip back to Memphis for awhile

**** that. Just DFA the mother****er. He serves no purpose.

Mo is going to have to release or trade Jay and Maness so Matheny will stop using them. Jay goes 0-28 in that game and can't catch a cold in CF yet he is playing over Bourjous, who can at least get to a few balls.

Maness is proof that dumb luck only takes you so far. His stuff wouldn't even be good at the college level.

But Maness is a double play machine!!!!! 111

It's been a bad couple days, I need my Cardinals to lift my spirits.

With the run support Lynn typically gets, I wish he could start more than once every 5 games.

Grichuk hits at this level, he's gonna start getting most of Bourjos AB"s (should get Jays instead).

He's an upgrade in CF over Jay defensively, too.

I also think you can ease the worries with OTav. He's currently got like a 14 game hit streak going in Memphis and is basically all around raking.

I didn't realize he was as good defensively as he's shown. **** it, keep him in the lineup.

Iirc, he won a gold glove in the minors or something.

More than one; however, I've seen him projected as a corner OF, but tonight he's shown more than enough range for CF.

Called that same shit strike 3 against Holliday. This guys zone is shit.


Yeah, I don't think Grichuk has range to play CF everyday like Bourjos, but Bourjus might be the best defensive CF in baseball in terms of range.

Lynn gets down on himself, his mechanics go all garbage.

This team loves pissing away a lead.

And, Lance Lynn happened again.

Negged

109 MPH hit speed on that Grichuk hit.

Great recovery by Adams.

Lohse has basically turned into a junk baller at this point.

While yes this offense hasn't been very good, they've also hit into some terrible luck.

Craig's kind of going the other way now, trying to pull everything it seems.

I'm trying to listen to the game via MLB At Bat.. Apparently my walls are painted with lead paint, because my feed keeps breaking up and the router/modem is 35 feet away in my living room.

Interesting Matheny yanked Lynn that quick. I am actually shocked.

Pitch count got up pretty quick.

Couple hits here, now we need one in a gap.

Lol Ellis strike out

Kyle Lohse has K'd 10 guys tonight. Kyle ****ing Lohse.

Yes Ellis is ****ing awful at the plate, but he's done it before, Wong hasn't so give him the benefit of the doubt.

Ball game.

The Brewers C team is kicking our ass right now.