Cain is going to be dead money by the time the ink dries

I Love Cain, but in reality he just can't stay healthy enough to hand him a huge contract.

He'll be 32 when the season starts. Thanks, but no thanks. Let's build up the Minor League system and get ready to compete in another 30 years or so..........

Padres beat reporter says the team claims they were hacked. Have to be skeptical of that.

He does say in a separate tweet that they don't have anything imminent with Hosmer. Let's see how true that is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Padres team official: The club&#39;s social media accounts, which posted and deleted Eric Hosmer items late last night, were hacked. As of now, it is unclear how that happened. Although teams run their respective accounts, they technically are assets controlled by MLB Advanced Media.</p>&mdash; Dennis Lin (@sdutdennislin) <a href="https://twitter.com/sdutdennislin/status/956550102306340865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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JMO, but I think that really depends on the deal.

Better check Boras' ISP to see if he was behind it.

It won't be popular and I think Moore is feeding us bullshit saying a total rebuild isn't necessary but it is. Rebuild the next 3-4 years and get that downtown park built just in time for the club to be a championship contender again.

**** building this team a new park, unless David Glass wants to pay for it all by himself.

It's going to happen. Kauffman is a dump.

Nope. Owner doesn't want to spend any money to keep the championship core together, then he can get ****ed.

That's a bit harsh. They signed Perez, Gordon, Duffy and Ventura. They were never going to sign them all. I never thought I'd see the day where the Royals put a $150 million payroll out there. They spent a lot of money to give these guys a chance.

That said, I'd have to imagine a new ballpark will be a tough sell either way. Kauffman is pretty well regarded as one of the most beautiful ballparks in baseball.

^someone's looking for attention

This is obvious trolling.

Last time for you in this thread

This FA market is the most stagnant I think I remember ever seeing. We should be able to sign at least a couple of these guys to at least reasonable deals, if not team friendly.

Boras still bitching

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...etitive-cancer

It's tricky. I've always been for signing Hosmer, but there's no argument that will reduce payroll flexibility down the road. I don't think Hos will be signing any kind of team friendly deal.

I think Cain has been probably the most important player, but you can't be overspending for a guy in his mid 30s. Moose has the swing that should age well but he's had a lot of leg problems and I don't think his quickness at third was even as good as the World Series years. The good news is power just isn't as expensive as it used to be. Look at Trumbo last year and JD Martinez this year.
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Given what the Royals, Cubs and Astros have done it's going to be hard to turn that tide. Teams can do it because baseball fans enjoy watching a group of young prospects come up together, and a lot of the big market teams figured out it makes more sense to develop your own guys over throwing out huge contracts to guys in their 30s.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

It's self-serving, but he does have a decent point. Most teams aren't trying to put the best team they reasonably can on the field. Instead, they are "rebuilding" for a better team in a few years that likely won't materialize anyway.

I'd say they enjoy winning. It's satisfying when a group comes up together and wins, but if they don't, there's not much fun in that.

They old trade for someone elses mediocre QB and be steady or to draft and develop a franchise QB and be great argument.

:clap:

Well that's obvious. But it's definitely different in baseball because there is such a large minor league system and fans follow it more closely than other leagues. In football and basketball you can watch the NCAA but you don't know which players will end up on your favorite team. In baseball we know who guys like Mondesi are and they are tied to KC.

The influence of advanced statistics and analytics has really changed this too. 15 years ago a lot of fans would have just wanted the Royals to spend money, period. Today there is a fairly large section of diehard fans who would prefer this team not sign any of their free agents, save money, and start working towards getting high draft picks to rebuild. No way that happens 15 years ago.

Yelich to the Brewers

@Brewers: The #Brewers have acquired OF Christian Yelich from Miami in exchange for OF Lewis Brinson, OF Monte Harrison, INF Isan Diaz and RHP Jordan Yamamoto. https://twitter.com/Brewers/status/9...094018/photo/1

Assume Cain isn't returning to Milwaukee?

Brewers gave up a lot. Brinson was their big OF prospect, and a couple of those other guys were highly thought of, but Yelich is under contract until 2022 at a reasonable rate... and he's 26, a proven hitter, and will probably rake in that ballpark.

Rosenthal says that this still doesn't rule them out on Cain, which I guess is possible but they'd be overloaded with outfielders if that's the case. Then again maybe they'll just let it ride. They're a sneaky deep team who rotates in a lot of players. They had nine different guys hit double digit homers and that didn't include their catchers, who hit 9, 8 and 6. Maybe they just sign Cain and rotate him and Braun through the lineup to keep them healthy.

Things have really not gone well for our much-touted FA class.

Is Mike Minor the only one who's signed?

He just posted about it again. Keep in mind that the Brewers have a pretty talented outfield of Braun/Broxton/Santana, plus now Yelich. Eric Thames plays OF occasionally and they have a super utility man in Hernan Perez who plays a lot of OF.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a> still are trying to sign free-agent outfielder Lorenzo Cain, sources tell The Athletic. Nothing changes with acquisition of Yelich.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/956679506881806342?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Welp

@Ken_Rosenthal: #Brewers in agreement with free-agent outfielder Lorenzo Cain, sources tell The Athletic. Deal is pending a physical.

I think the Brewers actually got Yelich for a song. Brinson is a premium prospect, and Harrison is really toolsy, but they have so much prospect depth in the outfield, they can afford to move them.


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5/80 for Cain. Wow. Good for him.

Not comfortable with that length. Going to look ugly when he's on the downside.


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5 years!!! Holy shit. They're just banking on losing that money

Yeah, I have no trouble not matching that one. I wonder where that puts Dyson's value at.

So there's one nice Comp. pick, right?

And a full no trade clause.

Happy for Zo. Happy the Royals didn't give him that contract.

Correct.

Shocked by this deal... thought he'd get what Bruce got ...so glad for the pick.

Two moments that immediately come to mind.... Cain's back to back diving catches against the Angels in the 2014 ALDS.

And scoring from first against the Blue Jays in the ALCS.... best seat I've ever had at The K, just off home plate, and that moment was ****ing nuts.

Good for him.

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I'll be rooting for him for sure.

He gave us some amazing memories for sure.

-Scoring from first in game 6 on a SINGLE when not even stealing. (Good scouting there too)
-The diving catches against the Angels in the same inning of Game 3 ALDS.
-The speed in the outfield.
-That smile and Salvy's instagram posts with him. Priceless.

Who guessed Cain would have the highest FA contract 2 weeks before Pitchers report?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lorenzo Cain has agreed on a 5-year, $80M deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a>, source says. It’s the biggest free agent contract of the offseason. The deal includes no-trade protection and significant award bonuses. Milwaukee building a super outfield with addition of Yelich and Cain.</p>&mdash; Jerry Crasnick (@jcrasnick) <a href="https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/956685103878557696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Q

:D

Is a super outfield the new market inefficiency?

I’m happy about this one. With his age he would have been a risk and I’m thrilled he’s in the NL because he might finally win the GG he deserves. Also Small Markets 4 lyfe and Cain gets to go back “home”. The Brewers might be my NL team this year.

@jcrasnick: Lorenzo Cain's deal with #Brewers includes a $300K bonus for each All-Star team, and $500K for MVP award. The #Dodgers, #Cubs and #SFGiants were all interested. Somewhat surprisingly, #Indians also were involved in discussions with him.

@MLBPipeline: Lorenzo Cain has reportedly agreed to a 5-year/$80m deal with #Brewers. #Royals would get comp pick at end of Round 1 (currently No. 31). @Brewers would forfeit their 3rd-highest pick (currently No. 73). 2018 @MLBDraft order: http://atmlb.com/2hGAtir https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/stat...980544/photo/1

Awesome. Love getting the pick. Now, somebody give Hoz $50 million.

Best of luck Lo Cain. Thanks for memories. Brewers traded him away, we got his prime for nothing and now they are paying for this decline.

Brewers are coming to Kauffman this year, yes?

In April too, so the first month of the season. He'll get a nice ovation.

Nothing but love for ya Lorenzo
It was a helluva run
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Typical FA deal.

Royals got his prime years & the Brewers are paying for it.

Brewers are going to have a super stacked top of the lineup.

They still need pitching though. If Dayton was looking to trade Duffy, Milwaukee would probably be one of the best fits.

I would easily make the Brewers my NL team.

Yes.

I would go:
Cain
Yelich
Braun
Shaw
Santana
Bandy
Arcia
Villar

That's pretty nasty. Also have Eric Thames floating around.

I take it you have Braun at 1st? Because either way, you could put Thames at 1B and still be loaded. And that still leaves guys like Aguilar and Perez on the bench, guys who are capable of popping 15-20 HR. They are a scary offensive team.

Kinda makes me sad lol

Best case scenario. We get the comp pick and LoCain goes to a team in the NL that we can kinda all pull for from afar.

Going to miss seeing him dominate center field.

Good for Cain. We get the pick and not the bad contract.

Me too but it was the right move to make.

Why would I pull for Milwaukee

Atta boy, Cain. Best of luck to you.

Small market
LoCain
Cardinals bastard step child
Not in the AL

Why not? I'm just saying, it's not like he went to the Dodgers or some outfit like that.

Why not?

Holy hell thats a lot of cheddar.

Good for him. I always wished I could run like that just once. To see what it felt like.

Wonder if this could get ugly.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Amid the Pittsburgh Pirates and Miami Marlins&#39; offseason trading sprees, the Major League Baseball Players Association is looking into the possibility they&#39;ve run afoul of rules that teams invest revenue-sharing dollars into baseball operations. <a href="https://t.co/UZe0fXT6Pg">https://t.co/UZe0fXT6Pg</a> <a href="https://t.co/jkUddZ7piz">pic.twitter.com/jkUddZ7piz</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/956780649351991296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The union needs Alex gordon and Pablo Sandoval to step up and start being more vocal about the need for FA to get paid

Because I only cheer for the royals.

Knock yourself out tho

BP's Top 10 Royals prospects for 2018:

Seuly Matias, OF

Khalil Lee, OF

Nick Pratto, 1B

Josh Staumont, RHP

Foster Griffin, LHP

Nicky Lopez, SS

Trevor Oaks, RHP

Eric Skoglund, LHP

Scott Blewett, RHP

Michael Gigliotti, OF

FYP

@JonHeyman: alcides escobar and the royals are working toward an agreement to bring him back to KC

Shocking

Hold my beer, Big Red /dayton

So is going to take abs away from Mondesi now? Seems like a dumb move unless they want to trade Whit.