I want Bowman to throw 50 more pitches so I don’t have to watch his shitty ass the rest of this series.

Same shit we’ve watched the past 3 years

Good god

Damn not enough pitches, Matheny is sure to use him again.

Bruce hitting .211 and Cespades hitting .220 coming into the series. Going to come out out their slumps sometime. They are too good of players.

Just like Ozuna is too good to stay down.

Someone down in single A would be better than that bum Bowman. What is it with keeping guys like this around.

Hes a “Matheny” guy. :hmmm:

We have tons of good pitchers in the minors. None of those are better than Bowman?

He ****ing sucks and Matheny should be suspended for that petty review of that homerun.

Another loss that will haunt us in September

Norris has been pitching really well. **** that crap, I’m gonna send Bowman.

Do we need to add Austin Gomber to that list?

ahem..... I’m right again! :rolleyes:

Hochman: Weaver looked cooked — why not pull him before pitching to Cespedes?

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...ad3b09e82.html

Because getting your pitcher a win is more important than a team win obviously.

Ding ding ding.

that has to be the reason. Everyone on the Planet could see he had lost control. Was not getting it back together. Just pull him. This makes it worse for the guy. Now he blows a game instead of having a “Not your best” day.

Martinez had an off day on opening day. He’s been fantastic since.

Bob Gibson had bad days. Admit it’s not your day and be your regular self in 5 days. No biggie.

Cards looking better tonight but seriously, Pham out of the lineup 2nd inning because of an unexpected head contusion?

That's why you didn't get big $$ dude. You are an injury freak.

Contusion and laceration are two different things.

Does it make a difference?

One's a concussion, the other's a cut.

I understand you're trying to say he's snakebitten, I just don't think that that's a good example.

You know it’s going to be a good night when Wacha gets through the lineup unscathed for the 3rd time.

A contusion is a "bruise" not a concussion and you are nit picking the point, yes I used the wrong word initially but it appears both a contusion and a laceration occurred.


First time I have heard of this happening.

I’m very curious about said “contraption”

I actually had a close buddy in high school break his jaw and have an orbital fracture from one of those hit things that snaps to the fence and you hit. It sprung back somehow and hit him in the face. ****ed him up.

It says it was of his own making but I've used those resistance "contraptions" when I was coaching little league baseball.

They attach to a fence. Your only suppose to go in slow motion until you feel the resistance. I used it to teach them where their feet, hips and hands were when they started to bring the bat through the zone.

I find it fascinating that something I used to teach little leaguers basic stuff is still in use in MLB.

Injury freak went 4-6 today and is hitting .368/.484/.539

Good win today fellas

I am glad we took 2 out of 3 from the Mets. We need to do the same with the Pirates.

you got that right fellas! Great win and let’s take 2/3!

Should have swept them

True.

They missed about 4 chances to win the game on offense earlier today and barely squeezed out of some jams defensively.

That being said I like them pulling it out. Builds character.

watching this team, so far anyway, they seem to have more grit and determination late than last years team.

Bad loss tonight fellas :cuss:

JFC Holland is just...

To be fair Martinez didn’t even get a glove on what should have been a game ending double play.

True...Plus an abomination out in centerfield

That ball was smoked. Your Pham trolling is funny though.

He's definitely raking. Looked like a little leaguer out there though on that play.

matheny with the late pull again. You wait until your reliever gives up 3 runs in the 9th then pull him? They had been teeing off on everything. Just like the Lyons outing last week, Matheny inability to pull the trigger until it’s too late cost us the game.

And you have the winning run on 3rd base. Hicks had already beat Marte with two inside fastballs but, Molina try to get cute and goes slider. You get beat when the game us on the line, make sure it's against your best stuff.

Gonna shit the bed in Pittsburgh

we hit the ball hard and right at someone. They get beat with bases loaded inside But it’s a dribbler and more runs. Sometimes it’s kust one of those nights.

Last night was a bad beat.

Fowler’s effort on that foul ball shows he still cares and willing to sacrifice his body for an out.

Need a W tomorrow in a bad way.

Last years bullpen - "No way you can top our 40 blown leads from last season".

This years bullpen - "Hold my beer".

ROFL

Weaver vs Kingham???

Who the hell are these two guys??? ROFL

Kingham is tossing a perfect game.

Let's Go Bucs!

No excuse for Weaver to not have been pulled. Matheny has to go but he’s bulletproof.

Hey we got a hit!

Goddamn this team is an abortion.

What does Carpenter do that Gyorko can't?

Carpenter doesn't do anything well at all. He just ran into an obvious out at home plate because along with his hitting and defense his base running sucks.

And how Mabry still has a job is the 8th wonder of the world.

isnt Gyrko currently batting an All-Star type line? Martinez is an all star this year. It’s either for Wong or until Gyrko cools off. But we know that’s never going to happen.

They are pitching Carp outside. Big time shift is on. Why doesn’t he just flip/guide the ball through that wide open side of the field?

Game would be tied if Carp wasn't an idiot.

Only hitting like .420 in limited at bats.

Carpenter and Fowler both need to hit the bench. Gyrko can replace Carpenter and one of the young guys can out perform Fowler in the outfield at his point.

Someone needs to make a statement you wont get playing time if you keep sucking.

Instead we keep running guys out there hitting .170.

He’s always been a horrible defender and base runner. Now that he can’t hit he’s just an awful player.

And what a crap signing Fowler has been. At least Carp gave us a few years of good offensive production.

Carp went to shit when he got paid.

Gyorko should start at 3rd and Marp should be a utility player. Won’t happen under Matheny though. Bader should get some starts over Fowler also.

Q

1 run in 20 innings and then Carp ties it. We should trash Carp more often.

Not sure I could. :D

Think I need to dump Jose Martinez from my FBB team so he starts hitting again.

Jesus that was 1ft from game over.

Damn they needed that. Losing to a shit White Sox team would have been just embarrassing.

Carp and Ozuna come through. Yadi proving again he’s not done quite yet.

15.1 WAR since he signed a $52 million dollar contract when the going rate was $6-7 million per win.

He's overperformed the contract by $40 million even if he's replacement level from here on out

Anthony Rizzo is the 4th-worst player in baseball and the second-worst full-time hitter this year, but I have a feeling y'all would trade almost anyone on the roster to get him.

Sox throwing a pitcher against us with a 6.75 era and we have 1 hit into the 6th. Luckily Martinez is still continuing to pitch like an All-Star.

LMAO and Carlos Martinez has the HR that has us up 1-0.

l don’t know the stats of every pitcher but Carlos has to be in the running for a Cy Young this year, if he keeps this up and not revert to opening day Carlos.

If there was a less than 30 games into the season Cy Young he might have a shot.

He wouldnt be top 5 in the NL if voting started today.

BTW Marp still sucks.

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Surprised Wong didn't end up on the DL.

He'll never put together a consistent season unless he can get out of his own head.

:facepalm:

Ah, the Lance Lynn Memorial Headcase Argument for people unwilling to learn about a pitcher's arsenal.

This is just so goddamn lazy. No, Carlos Martinez is not now and has not ever been a headcase. You know what he was? A guy that really really struggled to get the ball to the glove side of the plate without telegraphing it. That's it.

For the last 2 seasons he's struggled to get the ball away from righties without giving it away. Now that's not a big deal against RH hitters really - his stuff allows him to kill righties without really needing to tunnel a pitch glove-side. But where it hurt him badly was against lefties - he needed to be able to get in their kitchen to keep them honest and he just couldn't do it. With his sinker moving away and his 4-seamer needing to deviate from its usual path to get there, pitches inside to lefties were easy to identify. So depending on the hitter, they could either sit on the inside pitch and kill it when he telegraphed it or they could spit on the inside pitch, eliminate that zone and look to drive pitches to the opposite field when Carlos went away. That's how they were able to deal with a changeup that should have otherwise baffled lefthanded hitters, IMO.

Consequently, just like Lynn before him, he often came apart in innings that featured lefties heavily (Lynn's problem was also lefties but he never developed a proper counter). So what changed? No - he didn't get more mentally tough 3 seasons after his best friend died. He picked up a damn cutter.

That cutter is an equalizer. It moves at virtually the same velocity as his sinker and has the same vertical movement as his sinker. For 90% of its path to home plate, the thing looks like his sinker. Then it goes the opposite direction; right at the hands of lefties and right off the barrel of righties. It makes him a TON harder to hit. Now they not only have trouble hitting that pitch, but they have trouble identifying it and it makes them unable to sit either way so it makes the sinker more effective as well. It also makes him less reliant on the 4-seamer so he can deploy it more judiciously and to greater impact.

Carlos Martinez is no more mentally tough than he's ever been. And being mentally tough wasn't his problem. His problem was first and foremost a simple gap in his stuff. He had a large spot in the strike zone he couldn't get to without telegraphing it. He doesn't have that spot anymore.

Now he's not quite this good; there's been a little bit of luck buried in his performance to this point and sooner or later hitters will adjust to the cutter and he'll stop being able to wreck lefties with it like he has. But he isn't pitching well right now because he's suddenly decided that he shouldn't be a wuss anymore. The guy didn't pitch his way out of the DR to get a big deal with Boston only to see it voided by MLB and get suspended, work his way into a better deal with STL, battle his way to the bigs, make 100 major league starts, pitch in the WS, lose his best friend and THEN decide to grow up.

Matt Harvey's career with the Mets is over. They wanted to send him to the minors to work his issues out and he refused.

Bring him in for a look?

He's had a pretty shitty season so far, but hell, he's only 29.

damn good read DJ. Hang more often. :clap:

Ozzie and Fowler meeting and chatting in the aisles of Target?

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