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Pasta Little Brioni 03-25-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17457093)
It always kinda cracks me up when the "why'd we trade him for that, we got fleeced" starts.

Do we not think they got the most they could have? Why wouldn't they?

He had more leverage here than some thought I guess. With the new contract, he could basically veto trades to teams if he said he woudln't sign new deals.

There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-25-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17457201)
Something I've been thinking about this morning, I can't believe I ever wanted Spags gone. That take was so hilariously bad and I'm so happy to be wrong.

Dude....why would you have ever thought that?

O.city 03-25-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17457349)
There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.

After the Chris Jones saga, they probably didn't wanna mess with him not showing up for camp and such drama that comes with being tagged.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-25-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17457342)
Imagine trying to defend that you wanted Andy AND Spags gone at one point!

LMAO

Webcrawler? ROFL and Chris Jones

Smed1065 03-25-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17457335)
To be fair, Chiefs players have a lot more wear and tear than most

Good and bad at the same time. :) I'll take the wear and tare tho. Not many tears recently compared to my last 50 years tho. :p

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-25-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17457349)
There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.

you forgot to equate the $19.6 million...

RunKC 03-25-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17457349)
There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.

What do you guys not understand about this? It’s not financially responsible, especially after they caved and gave Chris Jones a **** ton of money.

They had to choose who they were paying and it wasn’t Sneed

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-25-2024 12:01 PM

Moving CJ out to DE was a bad move for sure. I wonder if CJ had been lobbying for it and midway through the season both CJ and Spags realized it was a big mistake.

The silver lining is that it led to CJ being able to freelance and pick anywhere on the line to rush from, which HAS worked out in the long run.

Smed1065 03-25-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17457362)
you forgot to equate the $19.6 million...

Puff, Cash bonus could have been used. I mean that would be like change in our pockets to Clark.

DRM08 03-25-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17457262)
Tyreek Hill is a unicorn special player, there will never be another one of him, Sneed isn't that guy.

Sneed gave Tyreek a very difficult time in 2 games last year. That’s pretty special stuff considering how difficult it is to slow down Tyreek.

J Diddy 03-25-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17457349)
There are those of us that think you just hold onto him instead of taking peanuts.

and which 10 players do you let go to keep the 1?

RedinTexas 03-25-2024 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17457341)
That's how it SHOULD be but it's not. In the last five to six years you make a strong case as to say the Chiefs are the only team that has been "winning." Much of the thr rest is tributes to Tom Brady (on two different teams) and a one year (loaded up to fail later) wonder by the Rams.

So no, the Chiefs are the one team to don't make better. Trading with them high pucks makes less sense than trading with a division rival.

Yeah, you might want to be careful about making the Chiefs better, but we see that the Titans traded with the Chiefs, so if you're another team that could have used Sneed, how do you justify not trading for him when he could have been had fairly cheaply. If the Titans were going to do it anyway, what difference would have made if you had done the deal with slightly better compensation for the Chiefs?

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-25-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 17457387)
Puff, Cash bonus could have been used. I mean that would be like change in our pockets to Clark.

What? Clark and the Chiefs max out the cap, and actually push off cap each and every year. Clark can't just pay extra to keep Sneed. The Chiefs made the decision that pushing off more cap and keeping Sneed wasn't worth it with the impending contracts of Creed, Bolton, McDuffie and others. Those of you who think this isn't a real thing are delusional.

RunKC 03-25-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17457505)
What? Clark and the Chiefs max out the cap, and actually push off cap each and every year. Clark can't just pay extra to keep Sneed. The Chiefs made the decision that pushing off more cap and keeping Sneed wasn't worth it with the impending contracts of Creed, Bolton, McDuffie and others. Those of you who think this isn't a real thing are delusional.

Exactly. Not sure why people don’t understand this.

They gave Chris Jones a ton of money from 2025-2027. Mahomes has a big contract. Jawaan Taylor has a big contract. Clark isn’t gonna be writing all these checks for restructures when he’s already gonna have to do it for Mahomes and Chris Jones already.

The cap health is needed to try to and keep as many young stars as possible. They’re gonna pay Bolton and Creed. They’re gonna turn around and pay McDufffie and Karlaftis big money shortly after that.

Rausch 03-25-2024 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17457513)
Exactly. Not sure why people don’t understand this.

They gave Chris Jones a ton of money from 2025-2027. Mahomes has a big contract. Jawaan Taylor has a big contract. Clark isn’t gonna be writing all these checks for restructures when he’s already gonna have to do it for Mahomes and Chris Jones already.

The cap health is needed to try to and keep as many young stars as possible. They’re gonna pay Bolton and Creed. They’re gonna turn around and pay McDufffie and Karlaftis big money shortly after that.

I'm not sold on Karlaftis getting a big payday. If he takes a mid-range to low end contract we'll probably keep him. He's not a top 15 DE though so it's not like he's impossible to replace...

crispystl 03-25-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17457385)
Moving CJ out to DE was a bad move for sure. I wonder if CJ had been lobbying for it and midway through the season both CJ and Spags realized it was a big mistake.

The silver lining is that it led to CJ being able to freelance and pick anywhere on the line to rush from, which HAS worked out in the long run.

Yeah that huge sack against the Bengals in the AFC championship game least year was from DE

Red Dawg 03-25-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17457524)
I'm not sold on Karlaftis getting a big payday. If he takes a mid-range to low end contract we'll probably keep him. He's not a top 15 DE though so it's not like he's impossible to replace...

He is not shit and he's above average. 10.5 sacks is not nothing. You just don't get a guy from the draft to do that. He won't break the bank but he's better than you think. Same sack number in 23 as Nick Bosa, Chubb and Jones.

Chiefnj2 03-25-2024 01:33 PM

Now that they have room, KC would be smart to move some of Jones' money around so it hits the cap this year.

O.city 03-25-2024 01:46 PM

Karlaftis is a 100 million dollar guy. He's a double digit sack DE.

JPH83 03-25-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17457571)
Karlaftis is a 100 million dollar guy. He's a double digit sack DE.

Are we talking about across his entire career, or in a single contract. What other DEs are earning that? Genuine question. I mean, I don't think he's worth that or will get paid anywhere near that.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-25-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17457587)
Are we talking about across his entire career, or in a single contract. What other DEs are earning that? Genuine question. I mean, I don't think he's worth that or will get paid anywhere near that.

He will absolutely get 100 million unless he falls off a cliff. If he keeps improving like he has, you’re probably looking at even more.

raybec 4 03-25-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17457571)
Karlaftis is a 100 million dollar guy. He's a double digit sack DE.

Only if he signs at least a 5 year deal. He's not getting 25 million per.

JPH83 03-25-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17457592)
Only if he signs at least a 5 year deal. He's not getting 25 million per.

This is what I mean. I guess there will be wage inflation as the cap rises...but that's a lot of money.

CoMoChief 03-25-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17457571)
Karlaftis is a 100 million dollar guy. He's a double digit sack DE.

10.5 sacks isn't worth 100M.

If it is, then hopefully it's with another team.

RunKC 03-25-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 17457599)
10.5 sacks isn't worth 100M.

If it is, then hopefully it's with another team.

10.5 as a 2nd year 22 year old. He’s gonna get better. I’d bet he’s a 15+ sack guy this or next year. That’s worth $100 million

Red Dawg 03-25-2024 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 17457599)
10.5 sacks isn't worth 100M.

If it is, then hopefully it's with another team.

The Bosa brothers say hi.

DRM08 03-25-2024 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 17457599)
10.5 sacks isn't worth 100M.

If it is, then hopefully it's with another team.

As the salary cap skyrockets each year, I think we will be surprised by the amount of money guys are paid even if they aren't obvious superstars. We have seen that trend with NBA & MLB as well. Dudes we have never heard of are making insane money in those leagues.

O.city 03-25-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17457587)
Are we talking about across his entire career, or in a single contract. What other DEs are earning that? Genuine question. I mean, I don't think he's worth that or will get paid anywhere near that.

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17457591)
He will absolutely get 100 million unless he falls off a cliff. If he keeps improving like he has, you’re probably looking at even more.

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17457592)
Only if he signs at least a 5 year deal. He's not getting 25 million per.

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17457595)
This is what I mean. I guess there will be wage inflation as the cap rises...but that's a lot of money.

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 17457599)
10.5 sacks isn't worth 100M.

If it is, then hopefully it's with another team.

Montez Sweat just got 100 million dollars. Karlaftis is already on a better track than he was.

So...yeah. Chiefs fans need to prepare for Karlaftis to get atleast that.

O.city 03-25-2024 02:46 PM

Karlaftis has every bit as much of a track record as Brian Burns does. Go look at what he just got paid.

JPH83 03-25-2024 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17457631)
Montez Sweat just got 100 million dollars. Karlaftis is already on a better track than he was.

So...yeah. Chiefs fans need to prepare for Karlaftis to get atleast that.

Karlaftis has a pretty long way to go yet to be the player Sweat is. If he gets $100m good luck to him, I'd assume he'd become an elite player.

JPH83 03-25-2024 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17457634)
Karlaftis has every bit as much of a track record as Brian Burns does. Go look at what he just got paid.

And we don't even need to trade for him...jk

scho63 03-25-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17457342)
Imagine trying to defend that you wanted Andy AND Spags gone at one point!

LMAO

Not gonna lie that I wobbled heavily on Spags at times.

Andy had moments that made me crazy but NEVER wanted to move away from him. The only game that made me question him was the Colts 45-44 playoff comeback. That game shook a lot of us.

BossChief 03-25-2024 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 17457599)
10.5 sacks isn't worth 100M.

If it is, then hopefully it's with another team.

Dude.

By the time George gets to the point of an extension, he will be closer to a 150m player than a 100m player. The cap will be well over 300m by then.

He’s extremely raw still and is already a really good player that has shown to be extremely coachable and seeks to improve.

Coochie liquor 03-25-2024 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17456911)
He walks next year after a three peat this year, something that has never been done before. Much more value than what we got.

Veach isn’t gonna go all in and not play fir the future. An injury can derail anything. We’re in a window while we have Mahomes. Why sacrifice the future, when we need to maximize the time we have Mahomes/Andy together. We won with the majority of these players last year. We’re better at receiver already. We need OL as we have no legit LT. No update on when Thuney is available. Fill the roster out with that money, and let the best coach/quarterback/defensive coordinator/TE in the league do what they do best!

Coochie liquor 03-25-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17457342)
Imagine trying to defend that you wanted Andy AND Spags gone at one point!

LMAO

Reerun KC still sticks to his guns on that. It’s unbelievable. 3 ****ing rings later. :shake:

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-25-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17457794)
Veach isn’t gonna go all in and not play fir the future. An injury can derail anything. We’re in a window while we have Mahomes. Why sacrifice the future, when we need to maximize the time we have Mahomes/Andy together. We won with the majority of these players last year. We’re better at receiver already. We need OL as we have no legit LT. No update on when Thuney is available. Fill the roster out with that money, and let the best coach/quarterback/defensive coordinator/TE in the league do what they do best!

Theres a bunch of people who feel the chance at a 3-peat is too alluring not to go all in for.

I agree to an extent. I dont think an all-in is necessary for a 3-peat. We're still a very young team. Let those guys develop, patch the holes in the offense, and I think we have a great shot at it.

Meatloaf 03-26-2024 09:29 AM

Just saw where Sneed passed his physical (reported by Paul Kuharsky). FWIW.

ForeverChiefs58 03-26-2024 09:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest Average Paid CBs<br><br>1. Jaire Alexander, $21M<br>2. Denzel Ward, $20.1M<br>3. Marshon Lattimore, $19.52M<br>4. Marlon Humphrey, $19.5M<br>5. Trevon Diggs, $19.4M<br>6. L&#39;Jarius Sneed, $19.1M</p>&mdash;<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top CB Guarantees<br><br>1. Denzel Ward, $71.25M<br>2. Marlon Humphrey, $67.3M<br>3. Marshon Lattimore, $58M<br>4. L&#39;Jarius Sneed, $55M<br>5. Jaylon Johnson, $51.4M</p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1772645384084398136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1772645383052636222?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top CB Guarantees<br><br>1. Denzel Ward, $71.25M<br>2. Marlon Humphrey, $67.3M<br>3. Marshon Lattimore, $58M<br>4. L&#39;Jarius Sneed, $55M<br>5. Jaylon Johnson, $51.4M</p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1772645384084398136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCJake 03-26-2024 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 17458288)
Just saw where Sneed passed his physical (reported by Paul Kuharsky). FWIW.

I thought he had a bad knee:hmmm:

loochy 03-26-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17458487)
I thought he had a bad knee:hmmm:


It's called "cope" and it's what scorned people do to justify when things don't go their way.


Oh, he's not that good because he grabs too much. He has too many illegal contact / holding / DPI penalties. He has a bum knee. etc.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-26-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17457501)
Yeah, you might want to be careful about making the Chiefs better, but we see that the Titans traded with the Chiefs, so if you're another team that could have used Sneed, how do you justify not trading for him when he could have been had fairly cheaply. If the Titans were going to do it anyway, what difference would have made if you had done the deal with slightly better compensation for the Chiefs?

Yeah, I agree with you there. I guess the CB market has lost trade value then. Sneed is a better player than Marcus Peters but we got a second for him.

It's disappointing any way you slice. Veach said they were happy to keep him but this is a cap dump move.

Mecca 03-26-2024 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17458487)
I thought he had a bad knee:hmmm:

He does have a bad knee, but teams overlook things all the time.

Hoover 03-26-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17457839)
Theres a bunch of people who feel the chance at a 3-peat is too alluring not to go all in for.

I agree to an extent. I dont think an all-in is necessary for a 3-peat. We're still a very young team. Let those guys develop, patch the holes in the offense, and I think we have a great shot at it.

You have to define what “all in” means.

It doesn’t plundering your team into salary cap hell. That’s full reerun, see Chargers, Saints, ect

BossChief 03-26-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17458487)
I thought he had a bad knee:hmmm:

He does.

A team physical is just confirming what they know is an issue for the player and to make sure nothing is unknown. They already knew about the knee and concussion issues.

Nobody that has been in the league 4-5 years has a physical with no issues, it’s risk management for team prior to signing the deal.

Chiefnj2 04-03-2024 01:18 PM

Contract details are available:

2024 cap hit is only $9.96M
2025 cap hit is $24M

TN has an out in 2026, where they can pay Sneed a $21M cap hit or cut and have $12M dead money.

FloridaMan88 08-26-2024 03:00 PM

I can understand to some extent his frustration… leaving a dynasty in KC for a rebuild in Tennessee.

But either he accepts less than his market value to stay in KC… or he decides to get paid.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I didn’t talk to them, I was bitter…Kansas City was like my first love, they showed me the ways, showed me how to be a champion and gave me 2 rings.” L’Jarius Sneed on his NFL offseason move <br><br>The tough part about <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> is that as the years go on, we all learn it’s a business &amp;… <a href="https://t.co/Hvdqex5e8j">pic.twitter.com/Hvdqex5e8j</a></p>&mdash; Pivot Podcast (@thepivot) <a href="https://twitter.com/thepivot/status/1827383053137695106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MahomesMagic 08-26-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17647437)
I can understand to some extent his frustration… leaving a dynasty in KC for a rebuild in Tennessee.

But either he accepts less than his market value to stay in KC… or he decides to get paid.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I didn’t talk to them, I was bitter…Kansas City was like my first love, they showed me the ways, showed me how to be a champion and gave me 2 rings.” L’Jarius Sneed on his NFL offseason move <br><br>The tough part about <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> is that as the years go on, we all learn it’s a business &amp;… <a href="https://t.co/Hvdqex5e8j">pic.twitter.com/Hvdqex5e8j</a></p>&mdash; Pivot Podcast (@thepivot) <a href="https://twitter.com/thepivot/status/1827383053137695106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He would come back in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself.

Rasputin 08-26-2024 03:25 PM

Chiefs didn't want to insult J Sneed by lowballing him and offering a below market deal. It sucks we had to let him go, glad he understands it's business.


That's what makes Veach so good is he makes the tough decisions to let people go and work the draft and gets value with his picks.

O.city 08-26-2024 03:27 PM

These guys can't let themselves be honest about this.

"I wanted to maximize my earnings and I had to go elsewhere to do that".

BossChief 08-26-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17647489)
These guys can't let themselves be honest about this.

"I wanted to maximize my earnings and I had to go elsewhere to do that".

I mean, sometimes that’s the case. But in other cases, the player doesn’t have a choice. The team decides to offer a contract to the player or not and a few guys that have left mentioned KC never offered them a deal.

Even Clark Hunt mentioned this while CJ95 was in limbo…that they were still deciding to offer him a contract or not.

RunKC 08-26-2024 03:40 PM

We’re never gonna pay h in even with a discount. McDuffie is an all pro corner and they have been good with developing that position.

They also need the money for Creed, Butker, Trey and Bolton who they are trying to get signed.

ThrobProng 08-26-2024 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17647437)
I can understand to some extent his frustration… leaving a dynasty in KC for a rebuild in Tennessee.

But either he accepts less than his market value to stay in KC… or he decides to get paid.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I didn’t talk to them, I was bitter…Kansas City was like my first love, they showed me the ways, showed me how to be a champion and gave me 2 rings.” L’Jarius Sneed on his NFL offseason move <br><br>The tough part about <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> is that as the years go on, we all learn it’s a business &amp;… <a href="https://t.co/Hvdqex5e8j">pic.twitter.com/Hvdqex5e8j</a></p>&mdash; Pivot Podcast (@thepivot) <a href="https://twitter.com/thepivot/status/1827383053137695106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This mother****er is aware of the NFL salary cap, right? He's acting like KC spit in his face.

O.city 08-26-2024 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17647506)
I mean, sometimes that’s the case. But in other cases, the player doesn’t have a choice. The team decides to offer a contract to the player or not and a few guys that have left mentioned KC never offered them a deal.

Even Clark Hunt mentioned this while CJ95 was in limbo…that they were still deciding to offer him a contract or not.

The Chiefs new the price. If he wanted less than the price, he coulda came back. Or maybe they didn't wanna mess with teh knee.

Renegade 08-26-2024 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17647520)
The Chiefs new the price. If he wanted less than the price, he coulda came back. Or maybe they didn't wanna mess with teh knee.

O. City-how would you rate his grill? Was all that work done after he got his big shiny new contract?

Easy 6 08-26-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17647437)
I can understand to some extent his frustration… leaving a dynasty in KC for a rebuild in Tennessee.

But either he accepts less than his market value to stay in KC… or he decides to get paid.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I didn’t talk to them, I was bitter…Kansas City was like my first love, they showed me the ways, showed me how to be a champion and gave me 2 rings.” L’Jarius Sneed on his NFL offseason move <br><br>The tough part about <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfl</a> is that as the years go on, we all learn it’s a business &amp;… <a href="https://t.co/Hvdqex5e8j">pic.twitter.com/Hvdqex5e8j</a></p>&mdash; Pivot Podcast (@thepivot) <a href="https://twitter.com/thepivot/status/1827383053137695106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I read that exact article yesterday, you can really tell he hated leaving the culture we have here where the vibes are always elevated and cool... but you priced us out Sneed, we couldn't afford you

Now, just like Reek... you will get your money, but will sorely miss the constant winning and winners atmosphere full of comradery

You're rich now, enjoy your 9-7 season

DJ's left nut 08-26-2024 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 17647485)
Chiefs didn't want to insult J Sneed by lowballing him and offering a below market deal. It sucks we had to let him go, glad he understands it's business.


That's what makes Veach so good is he makes the tough decisions to let people go and work the draft and gets value with his picks.

Sneed did the smart thing - The Chiefs probably did as well.

Ultimately I don't think there are any real losers in this deal. KC doesn't have a lot of fat on its cap that cost it a quality guy {cough}FrankClark{coughcough}.

It just worked out the way it kinda had to.

But I'll miss the shit out of Sneed, man. That dude was a blast and a great guy to root for.

DJ's left nut 08-26-2024 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17647513)
We’re never gonna pay h in even with a discount. McDuffie is an all pro corner and they have been good with developing that position.

They also need the money for Creed, Butker, Trey and Bolton who they are trying to get signed.

And ultimately it seems that if the Chiefs have a choice between an offensive player or defensive player, they'll be more likely to spend the money on an offensive player (and Chris Jones).

But really, I don't even know that it was the cap that cost us Sneed. It was the knee.

I don't think the organization trusted it. If they did, I think they'd have still gotten a deal done.

Buehler445 08-26-2024 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17647573)
Sneed did the smart thing - The Chiefs probably did as well.

Ultimately I don't think there are any real losers in this deal. KC doesn't have a lot of fat on its cap that cost it a quality guy {cough}FrankClark{coughcough}.

It just worked out the way it kinda had to.

But I'll miss the shit out of Sneed, man. That dude was a blast and a great guy to root for.

For sure. I’m rooting for Sneed in all non-KC games. Seems like a great dude and absolutely badass. Hopefully he plays well and gets another big contract.

TwistedChief 08-26-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17647518)
This mother****er is aware of the NFL salary cap, right? He's acting like KC spit in his face.

You’re acting like far more of a bitch by calling him a “mother****er” than he was in this video.

DRM08 08-26-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17647573)
Sneed did the smart thing - The Chiefs probably did as well.

Ultimately I don't think there are any real losers in this deal. KC doesn't have a lot of fat on its cap that cost it a quality guy {cough}FrankClark{coughcough}.

It just worked out the way it kinda had to.

But I'll miss the shit out of Sneed, man. That dude was a blast and a great guy to root for.

Sneed is awesome. I think the KC defense will miss him this year. Mahomes & the offense will need to put more points on the board this time around if they want to win another ring. Not gonna have two lockdown CB's in the secondary to pull off a 17-10 victory in the Playoffs like they did last year.

ToxSocks 08-26-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17647600)
Sneed is awesome. I think the KC defense will miss him this year. Mahomes & the offense will need to put more points on the board this time around if they want to win another ring. Not gonna have two lockdown CB's in the secondary to pull off a 17-10 victory in the Playoffs like they did last year.

How many points do you think Sneed is worth?

DRM08 08-26-2024 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17647606)
How many points do you think Sneed is worth?

I don't know, but in that Baltimore game Sneed directly robbed the Ravens of 7 points by forcing that fumble on the goal line. And outside of that play, Sneed helped the rest of the defense hold the Ravens to 10 points overall in the game.

Rasputin 08-26-2024 04:31 PM

He will now probably crack the top 50 in players top 100 now that he isn't a Kansas City Chief. They don't want to vote for Chiefs players.

TwistedChief 08-26-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17647610)
I don't know, but in that Baltimore game Sneed directly robbed the Ravens of 7 points by forcing that fumble on the goal line. And outside of that play, Sneed helped the rest of the defense hold the Ravens to 10 points overall in the game.

I agree. I don’t think it can be overstated what it means to have 2 lockdown corners versus just 1. I love what McDuffie brings but he’s not going to be the same guy that Sneed was in some coverage capacity (but can be better in other aspects). That’s going to hurt the pass rush and dilute everything the defense does.

Sneed wasn’t as perfect as the “no touchdowns allowed to a WR all year until Shakir in the playoffs” vibe, but he was really transformative and allowed everyone else to thrive.

I’m fine letting him go. Limited resources and it made sense.

FloridaMan88 08-26-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17647600)
Sneed is awesome. I think the KC defense will miss him this year. Mahomes & the offense will need to put more points on the board this time around if they want to win another ring. Not gonna have two lockdown CB's in the secondary to pull off a 17-10 victory in the Playoffs like they did last year.

The defense likely won't be good enough this season to hold up if the Chiefs offense goes 16 straight possessions without a TD.

Crazy that the Chiefs were able to do that between the AFC Championship Game and Super Bowl... and still hoist the Lombardi Trophy.

The good news is the Chiefs offense seems unlikely to be in that position again.

DJ's left nut 08-26-2024 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17647606)
How many points do you think Sneed is worth?

Football doesn’t lend itself to that kind of statistical analysis, IMO.

It’s just too situational.

tredadda 08-26-2024 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17647590)
For sure. I’m rooting for Sneed in all non-KC games. Seems like a great dude and absolutely badass. Hopefully he plays well and gets another big contract.

Same. There is nothing bad I can say about him. He was drafted in the 4th round and easily outplayed that contract. Not once do I recall him ever complaining about it. He just did his job and now he’s reaping the rewards of it. I genuinely hope he has a great season and the rest of his career. His playoff performance last year will always be remembered.

RunKC 09-21-2024 12:54 PM

I think we’ve been okay without Sneed so far. Conner has done a great job on blitzing and some coverage/tackling taking over that role.

Watson and McDuffie have been a rock solid CB duo but CB3 has been a problem and we saw that get exposed via the Bengals. Williams and Johnson got picked on and gave up TD’s

ThaVirus 09-21-2024 01:07 PM

I think it’s a bit too early to say definitively.

We look OK for now, but maybe we’ll regret the trade if we have to play the Bengals with a healthy Chase and Higgins, for example.

T-post Tom 09-21-2024 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17695531)
I think it’s a bit too early to say definitively.

We look OK for now, but maybe we’ll regret the trade if we have to play the Bengals with a healthy Chase and Higgins, for example.

I’ll take Reid/Mahomes/KC WRs over Taylor/Burrow/blabber mouths in a track meet or scorefest. :)

KCJake 09-21-2024 02:12 PM

Could you argue, it was keep Sneed or keep Chris Jones?

Sassy Squatch 09-21-2024 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17695606)
Could you argue, it was keep Sneed or keep Chris Jones?

Lol no. They've spent 8 million AAV on Danna and 6 million AAV on Gray. We could've kept both and in my opinion we should have. Oh well, we'll see going forward

Hammock Parties 09-21-2024 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17695622)
Lol no. They've spent 8 million AAV on Danna and 6 million AAV on Gray. We could've kept both and in my opinion we should have. Oh well, we'll see going forward

Doesn't touch Sneed's 19 AAV.

Chiefs are better off signing McDuffie when the time comes.

Hammock Parties 09-21-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17695513)
I think we’ve been okay without Sneed so far. Conner has done a great job on blitzing and some coverage/tackling taking over that role.

Watson and McDuffie have been a rock solid CB duo but CB3 has been a problem and we saw that get exposed via the Bengals. Williams and Johnson got picked on and gave up TD’s

Last year's defense isn't coming back so holding this squad to that standard is not fair. That was an almost historically great defense for this franchise.

It was like the '18 Chiefs offense.

If the defense gives up 24 points in the Mahomes era they have done their job. Mahomes has to go win the game. That's how this team is constructed.

BWillie 09-21-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17695622)
Lol no. They've spent 8 million AAV on Danna and 6 million AAV on Gray. We could've kept both and in my opinion we should have. Oh well, we'll see going forward

If they didn't extend Creed you could have easily

Pitt Gorilla 09-21-2024 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17695531)
I think it’s a bit too early to say definitively.

We look OK for now, but maybe we’ll regret the trade if we have to play the Bengals with a healthy Chase and Higgins, for example.

I would look at it the exact opposite way; our guys are going to be better the more they play.

Pitt Gorilla 09-21-2024 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17695622)
Lol no. They've spent 8 million AAV on Danna and 6 million AAV on Gray. We could've kept both and in my opinion we should have. Oh well, we'll see going forward

They also gave Kelce additional cap money on a non-extension.

jjchieffan 09-21-2024 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17647590)
For sure. I’m rooting for Sneed in all non-KC games. Seems like a great dude and absolutely badass. Hopefully he plays well and gets another big contract.

Not me. Not as long as he's a Titan. Nothing against him. But the shit compensation that they paid for him pisses me off. I hope that his knee problems keep him from being worth more than a 3rd round pick as long as he's there. Screw the Titans

kysirsoze 09-21-2024 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17696233)
Not me. Not as long as he's a Titan. Nothing against him. But the shit compensation that they paid for him pisses me off. I hope that his knee problems keep him from being worth more than a 3rd round pick as long as he's there. Screw the Titans

You hope his knee/career is ****ed because you're upset about a choice the Chiefs made? What the ****?

tredadda 09-21-2024 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17696233)
Not me. Not as long as he's a Titan. Nothing against him. But the shit compensation that they paid for him pisses me off. I hope that his knee problems keep him from being worth more than a 3rd round pick as long as he's there. Screw the Titans

What does that have to do with Sneed as a player and person? Who cares at this point what Tennessee gave up for him.


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