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Sassy Squatch 10-16-2018 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13822300)
Sorry not all of this is Sutton. This guy can’t tackle in space and it’s not a Sutton issue. He’s been in position to make a tackle and simply can’t do it. Ever. A 3 yard gain turns into 10+ bc he can’t tackle.

At some point you have to hold both parties accountable.

He has the 3rd most tackles in the league up to this point. Maybe if he was allowed to instinctively attack rather than read and react he's making tackles that aren't already 5+ yards down the field.

farmerchief 10-16-2018 11:08 AM

At least Tampa Bay, has had enough,,,,,,,

2. TB - Mike Smith fired as defensive coordinator

Source: Tampa Bay Times - Rick Stroud

Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Mike Smith was relieved of his duties Monday, Oct. 15.

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Smith's defense has been struggling for over a year and the Bucs had seen enough. The Bucs are 31st in the league with an average of 439.8 yards of offense allowed per game in 2018. Mark Duffner is set to take over as the defensive coordinator.

Iczer 10-16-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13822314)
He has the 3rd most tackles in the league up to this point. Maybe if he was allowed to instinctively attack rather than read and react he's making tackles that aren't already 5+ yards down the field.

Beat me to it.

Iczer 10-16-2018 11:13 AM

At what point do you say enough and just try something different, as in a new coach. Sutton has been here for how long and it's just going down hill.

You can blame personnel, and that's fair. However as a coach, it's your job to adapt and game plan for your strengths and weaknesses. It seems Sutton is so set in his ways and he refuses to do this.

Can it really get much worse than the current pace to break records for yards given up?

GloryDayz 10-16-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13822282)
You're effectively neutering Hitchens and Ragland by telling them to do that. No wonder they're hesitating all the goddamn time and getting washed out of plays.

Don't question Jesus Sutton Christ, he walks on water! Head on over to the Golden Corral and ask Andy!

TambaBerry 10-16-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 13822328)
At what point do you say enough and just try something different, as in a new coach. Sutton has been here for how long and it's just going down hill.

You can blame personnel, and that's fair. However as a coach, it's your job to adapt and game plan for your strengths and weaknesses. It seems Sutton is so set in his ways and he refuses to do this.

Can it really get much worse than the current pace to break records for yards given up?

at what point if you're the DC and what you're doing isnt working do you just let the guys go out and ****ing play. I mean scrap this read and react shit and let them blow shit up

htismaqe 10-16-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13821852)
The Chiefs should have been sending the house on that drive. Anything to get Brady throwing off platform. Sutton pussed out.

Cincinatti sent the house against Pittsburgh and gave up the game winning touchdown. Every talking head on all 3 networks was talking about how stupid Cincinatti was.

At the end of the Denver game, Booger and Young were talking about how dumb Denver was to not play soft and keep Mahomes in the pocket.

That part of this discussion isn't black and white. We could literally go back and forth on this for hours. There is no concrete right or wrong answer.

That being said, this defense is not only the worst in the NFL, it's the worst in team history. This isn't a 1-5 team, it's a 5-1 team. That DEMANDS action. Bob Sutton MUST be fired.

gold_and_red 10-16-2018 11:17 AM

I thought read and react was Romeo Crennel's way. Hard to believe that a Rex Ryan disciple would ask his players to do this.

GloryDayz 10-16-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13822298)
Semi serious proposition. Throw a low rounder at Oakland for Derrick Johnson to come back and run the defense on the field. We're up shit creek without a paddle the way things stand, so might as well get someone who knows what they're doing in this tire fire of a scheme, then take out the trash next offseason.

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htismaqe 10-16-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 13822317)
At least Tampa Bay, has had enough,,,,,,,

2. TB - Mike Smith fired as defensive coordinator

Source: Tampa Bay Times - Rick Stroud

Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Mike Smith was relieved of his duties Monday, Oct. 15.

[ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ FOOTBALLGUYS VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]

Smith's defense has been struggling for over a year and the Bucs had seen enough. The Bucs are 31st in the league with an average of 439.8 yards of offense allowed per game in 2018. Mark Duffner is set to take over as the defensive coordinator.

They replaced him with Mark Duffner, who in his one stint as an NFL DC, coordinated the 32nd-ranked defense in the league.

That's NOT the kind of change that is needed here.

htismaqe 10-16-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13822300)
Sorry not all of this is Sutton. This guy can’t tackle in space and it’s not a Sutton issue. He’s been in position to make a tackle and simply can’t do it. Ever. A 3 yard gain turns into 10+ bc he can’t tackle.

At some point you have to hold both parties accountable.

They held one party accountable and then dedicated an ENTIRE draft to it.

It's not only still bad, it's WORSE.

Sutton has to go. It's the only course of action left that offers any hope at all.

The Franchise 10-16-2018 11:20 AM

Mark Lea. DC for the Irish. Get that guy in here.

The Franchise 10-16-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13822347)
They held one party accountable and then dedicated an ENTIRE draft to it.

It's not only still bad, it's WORSE.

Sutton has to go. It's the only course of action left that offers any hope at all.

Not only did they dedicate an entire draft to it.....but two of those players are the only ones getting snaps right now. And it's only because Houston and KPass are hurt.

Sassy Squatch 10-16-2018 11:22 AM

Bright side, this is somewhat fixable at least where the ILBs are concerned, but adjustments need to be made immediately.

htismaqe 10-16-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13822351)
Bright side, this is somewhat fixable at least where the ILBs are concerned, but adjustments need to be made immediately.

Andy won't do it, though. We all know that.


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