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Skyy God 08-17-2023 05:15 AM

Florio says the Chiefs have Jones in checkmate. Probably.

Chris Simms says CJ is vastly underpaid. Holy ****ing shit, what a terrible take.

https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/...ate-with-jones

Coogs 08-17-2023 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17059317)
Question I don’t think we have discussed:

How do the fines affect his cap number?

He missed 1/18th of his salary by missing preseason game 1… does his cap number now go down?

He’s racked up more than $1M in camp fines. Do those subtract from his base?

I saw something on this a couple of days ago. I think the only thing that helps the cap is the 500,000 workout bonus he missed. Everything else stays against the cap.

Don't hold me to this. I don't know where I read it to link it right now, and don't have time to search for it either.

Skyy God 08-17-2023 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17060312)
I saw something on this a couple of days ago. I think the only thing that helps the cap is the 500,000 workout bonus he missed. Everything else stays against the cap.

Don't hold me to this. I don't know where I read it to link it right now, and don't have time to search for it either.

On the 2024 cap, correct.

“The fines have no effect on the salary cap — although the Chiefs will get a credit of $500,000 against the 2024 cap for Jones’ unearned workout bonus”.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platf...-him-3-million

Red Dawg 08-17-2023 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17060306)
Florio says the Chiefs have Jones in checkmate. Probably.

Chris Simms says CJ is vastly underpaid. Holy ****ing shit, what a terrible take.

https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/...ate-with-jones

Florio is such a two faced pile of crap. Never a word of Brady taking less as being a guy getting used but for us it's some crime and we are assholes. Brady got praised as being a winner and team player but Mahomes and Kelce are saps and Veach is a jerk for taking advantage of them.

STFU Florio

Skyy God 08-17-2023 05:43 AM

Reminder that Chris Jones’ dad doesn’t seem to make the best decisions.

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/nf...239043513.html

Apples and trees.

O.city 08-17-2023 06:30 AM

Don’t know if it’s been talked about but Jones agent is a lesser known guy who doesn’t really represent any big names.

So this being an obj situation isn’t out of the question

Skyy God 08-17-2023 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17060332)
Don’t know if it’s been talked about but Jones agent is a lesser known guy who doesn’t really represent any big names.

So this being an obj situation isn’t out of the question

I think that’s exactly what’s happening.

ThaVirus 08-17-2023 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17060322)
Reminder that Chris Jones’ dad doesn’t seem to make the best decisions.

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/nf...239043513.html

Apples and trees.

Dawg.. based on this article, Chris is nothing like his father. What a weird thing to say. Pretty douchey, honestly.

Skyy God 08-17-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17060344)
Dawg.. based on this article, Chris is nothing like his father. What a weird thing to say. Pretty douchey, honestly.

If you don’t think parents influence their children’s behavior (e.g., modeling behavior to adopt or avoid), then I don’t know what to tell you.

Jones has largely done the latter in his life, but his holdout seems more like the former.

mr. tegu 08-17-2023 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17060322)
Reminder that Chris Jones’ dad doesn’t seem to make the best decisions.

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/nf...239043513.html

Apples and trees.


What is it about this holdout that makes Jones appear to have a pattern of addictive and self destructive behaviors, is selfish, narcissistic, and is the type of person who deals with failures by bragging about them instead of being a better person?

Lzen 08-17-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17058670)
Nah... Rewatched the game. Saints pulled out a non vanilla offense in preseason game 1. They wanted and needed to make a good impression with Carr in preseason game 1. Meanwhile, the Chiefs, per the players, have one of, if not the hardest camps in the league. This was not a typical game week. The Chiefs practiced hard all week, got on a flight Saturday and flew to NO for a meaningless preseason game. There was not detailed game plan or film study on Carr and the new NO offense. Would Chris Jones had helped. Sure, but not nearly as much as he is getting credit.

I think you are right about that. I thought during the early portion of the game that the Chiefs just looked flat. I said they look flat and NO looks like they are trying to win the game. Mahomes confirmed that with trying to get his team to show some energy. It's preseason, I'm not the least bit concerned. Now, if this kind of play were to continue into the regular season. :hmmm::eek:

Lzen 08-17-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17059042)
Didn't Clark also sign one? Did KC honor the full extent of it? Why is it that players are obligated to honor the contract they sign, but teams are not? What security does Jones have after this year? Let's say he suffers a season ending injury, do you think KC resigns him to a nice contract?

I mean, I thought that was pretty obvious. Teams don't have to honor it because in situations like Frank Clark, the player is not the same one for which they initially paid all that money.

Skyy God 08-17-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17060377)
What is it about this holdout that makes Jones appear to have a pattern of addictive and self destructive behaviors, is selfish, narcissistic, and is the type of person who deals with failures by bragging about them instead of being a better person?

I’ve been on record as saying his holdout is selfish and ill advised.

duncan_idaho 08-17-2023 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17060350)
If you don’t think parents influence their children’s behavior (e.g., modeling behavior to adopt or avoid), then I don’t know what to tell you.

Jones has largely done the latter in his life, but his holdout seems more like the former.


And if you think children are guaranteed to be carbon copies of their parents, right down to negative traits, I don’t know what to tell you.

My mother is a full-blown narcissist who has never thought about anyone but herself for a moment of her life. Even my dad’s death earlier this year is all about her. She has told me multiple times that her grief is more than my grief and she doesn’t seem to understand why I haven’t reorganized my life to make it about her instead of my wife and young children.

I’m nothing like her. Most kids who escape a parent with toxic traits strive to be their exact opposite. I sure as **** do.

Lzen 08-17-2023 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17060322)
Reminder that Chris Jones’ dad doesn’t seem to make the best decisions.

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/nf...239043513.html

Apples and trees.

Dude, next time just post the article. Or at least post the relevant portion of it. I'm not clicking on that trash KC Star.


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