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Chiefs Pantalones 07-26-2015 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11619192)
No it's not. We have the best catcher in the American League to handle a pitching staff. We have a guy who can develop into an ace in Ventura. We have some prospects, depending on who we just traded away. Mondesi, Starling, Manaea, etc. We have more money because we've finally had success, and right about when this group leaves, we'll be signing a new TV deal for a lot more money. I don't know if we'll be the best team in the AL, probably not, but the foundation is there to be competitive at least.
We will revisit this in a few years. Can't count on it.

Bearcat 07-26-2015 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11619179)
It absolutely matters.
It only matters if/when those prospects actually live up to the hype (or something close to it) and you can say "holy shit, the Royals could really use those guys right now."

But, outside of last fall, Chiefs/Royals fans pretty much only know the excitement of potential. :shrug:

DaneMcCloud 07-26-2015 11:28 AM
It would be shocking to me if the Royals traded Finnegan for a rental.

I couldn't care less about Starling or Lamb but if Finnegan is part of the package, they'd better get something good coming back for several years.

Hootie 07-26-2015 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11619199)
Well yeah, theres uncertainty. Thats why I said might. Certainly not unreasonable Lamb could give you a high 3 ERA the rest of the year. That to me would be 80% of what you would get out of Cueto.
a high 3 era doesnt get it done in october ...

C3HIEF3S 07-26-2015 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 11619200)
We will revisit this in a few years. Can't count on it.
Even if we have down years once the core of this team splits, there is no way it will be as bad as it was even 7-8 years ago. DM built this organization up from nothing. We'll have a competent farm system after 2017, unlike when DM took over.

petegz28 07-26-2015 11:30 AM
As long as we don't go down the "Cespedes for Lester" route I am cool with whatver

alnorth 07-26-2015 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11619205)
It would be shocking to me if the Royals traded Finnegan for a rental.

I couldn't care less about Starling or Lamb but if Finnegan is part of the package, they'd better get something good coming back for several years.
It seems clear to me that the Royals see him as a relief pitcher. Maybe he could start, but if the Royals only believe he is a relief pitcher, then he's expendable.

Unsmooth-Moment 07-26-2015 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 11619190)
IT'S OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN THAT VENTURA NEEDS TO LEARN TO PITCH AND NOT THROW. I DON'T THINK CUETO IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO TRY AND TELL HIM.
Relax, bud. You're getting worked up about nothing. People have different thoughts than you, it's ok. None of us have a hand in choosing the 25 man roster.

tk13 07-26-2015 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 11619200)
We will revisit this in a few years. Can't count on it.
You can't count on anything, that's why we have to go for it now.

But we have Perez and Ventura signed long term. That's not debatable. It's a good start.

SAUTO 07-26-2015 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11619209)
It seems clear to me that the Royals see him as a relief pitcher. Maybe he could start, but if the Royals only believe he is a relief pitcher, then he's expendable.
This

Hootie 07-26-2015 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11619205)
It would be shocking to me if the Royals traded Finnegan for a rental.

I couldn't care less about Starling or Lamb but if Finnegan is part of the package, they'd better get something good coming back for several years.
lol

finnegan has very loud mechanics .... he's a B level prospect

BWillie 07-26-2015 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11619202)
a high 3 era doesnt get it done in october ...
How do you know?

My whole point is trading the farm, for a rental player that gives you a 5% better chance to win a Championship is ridiculous. I dont think Im going to hate the trade as much as I thought I would UNLESS ir includes both Lamb and Manaea. I hope they offered Finnegan and Starling at some point. Im not as high on Finnegan as most, or Starling for that matter

Sure-Oz 07-26-2015 11:32 AM
@JonHeymanCBS: hearing lefties john lamb and brandon finnegan could be in cueto trade. not confirmed. @jonmorosi @JeffPassan on this.

Hootie 07-26-2015 11:33 AM
Lamb > Finnegan

wazu 07-26-2015 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11619199)
Well yeah, theres uncertainty. Thats why I said might. Certainly not unreasonable Lamb could give you a high 3 ERA the rest of the year. That to me would be 80% of what you would get out of Cueto.
That would be the most optimistic assessment of Lamb ever. But if I assume you are right, I still want the other 20%. Cueto comes in and is immediately our no-doubt #1.


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