Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11851210)

:spock:

The Royals have been in more brawls and dustups than any team in baseball. You can say a lot of things about them, but I don't think that Yost is too much of a pussy to retaliate, otherwise you wouldn't have had the multiple incidents that you've had this year.

Say Herrera earholes Cespedes once the game is out of hand. Do you really want your second best reliever suspended (b/c they'd hear that appeal right away) for possibly the 6th and 7th games of the WS?

If a guy is crowding the plate, you back him off. That's baseball. What you don't do is intentionally throw at someone's head (unless it's a Chase Utley situation). I would have had no problems with Ventura giving Wright a purpose pitch in the first, but you don't need to start clogging the bases, either.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11851202)

Personally, I was hoping for a bench clearing whoop ass.

The New York media and the Mets forums have been calling for this all week, so it was no surprise.

Ned Yost was and is too big of a ****ing pussy to retaliate.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11851207)

I never understood where you were coming from before, and I still don't know. You didn't watch these games. Josh Donaldson was the one losing his shit every AB. Volquez threw him a changeup up and in the next time up, and he flipped out. From there, the rest of it was inevitable. Donaldson was looking for a fight. Him and Bautista are always looking for something to be angry about.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11851217)

The way Ned wastes pitchers, especially tonight, I don't care.

Stop being a pussy, Ned.

BTW, I'd trade Ned for Mike any of the week.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11851205)

If a Cubs pitcher had said that and then did the same thing to Carp. We would have retaliated with a fastball in the ribs.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11851220)

Great, the "MLB players can recognize a changeup when it is coming at their head" line.

He flipped out because he was hit near the head in the first, then had to dive away in the third, then got buzzed in the 7th right after Tulo got hit.

But yeah, he shouldn't lose his shit there.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander, eh?

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11851230)

He knew what he was doing. Just watch how he plays. He did the same thing in the ALCS. He creates a scene at the plate when he wants attention.

And once again, I'm not the one proclaiming innocence. I don't think the Royals are a bunch of innocent choir boys. But I don't have a problem with them standing up for themselves either. Somehow the other team never has any culpability. I openly said in plenty of game threads there were times where the Royals deserved one in the ribs. But almost all of these high profile incidents that people bring up were because guys were trying to mess with the Royals. Only one that wasn't was Ventura being an idiot and going after Trout.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11851230)

But almost all of these high profile incidents that people bring up were because guys were trying to mess with the Royals. Only one that wasn't was Ventura being an idiot and going after Trout.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11851092)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals are pissed about Syndergaard going up and in on Escobar. &quot;That&#39;s bad,&quot; Escobar said. &quot;That&#39;s bad.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/660305138742124544">October 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Rios on Noah Syndergaard&#39;s first pitch: &quot;I thought it was weak. Very weak. I thought it was unprofessional.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/660309564479393792">October 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Noah Syndergaard on Escobar/Royals being upset: &quot;If they have a problem with me throwing inside, they can meet me 60 feet, 6 inches away.&quot;</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/660310321966510080">October 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11851224)

You don't need to escalate the situation, though. Escobar gets buzzed, then buzz Granderson or Wright and leave it at that. Hitting them is likely to instigate further retaliation and you risk suspension or future injury to one of your players.

If Ventura hits Wright on purpose, what's to stop one of the Mets from going inside on Perez? And what happens if he breaks his wrist? Then, not only have you lost this game, but you're likely ****ed for the rest of the series.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11851237)

I understand the idea of actually not plunking a guy but the Mets set the tone from the start.

Of course, Ned's continual misuse of his pitchers and bullpen were the ultimate undoing, but having pissed off guys facing Syndergaard didn't help their at bats.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11851244)

The thing that sickened me (or thickened :) ) was the fans immediately cheering when he throw the pitch at esky. Talk about shitty fans.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11851246)

They are savage-ass ****ers, and they deserve to die a horrible sports death.