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DeezNutz 08-17-2009 10:15 PM

Have a expressed my pleasure in the Royals, for the second time in four years, selecting a gutless pussy who would rather sit out a year than take a few hundred thousand less and play MLB?

Perfect mental makeup. Exactly what I look for in a top-of-the-rotation guy.

I'm honestly not sure if we could have hired a more incompetent GM.

WoodDraw 08-17-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5980917)
Have a expressed my pleasure in the Royals, for the second time in four years, selecting a gutless pussy who would rather sit out a year than take a few hundred thousand less and play MLB?

Perfect mental makeup. Exactly what I look for in a top-of-the-rotation guy.

I'm honestly not sure if we could have hired a more incompetent GM.

I love people that call players gutless pussies on internet message boards.

The guy made a choice - a choice a lot of baseball people respected. He'll likely end up taking less money for it, but the negotiations last year were messed up across the board.

How about an organization that would rather lose a top draft pick than pay a top prospect a few hundred thousand more to sign?

These situations go both ways, and when you aren't sitting at the table actually knowing what's going on, it's best to STFU.

DeezNutz 08-17-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 5980940)
I love people that call players gutless pussies on internet message boards.

The guy made a choice - a choice a lot of baseball people respected. He'll likely end up taking less money for it, but the negotiations last year were messed up across the board.

How about an organization that would rather lose a top draft pick than pay a top prospect a few hundred thousand more to sign?

These situations go both ways, and when you aren't sitting at the table actually knowing what's going on, it's best to STFU.

LMAO.

Then I guess we can never discuss anything on this forum b/c there isn't a single sports-related topic that enables us to know all the sides of the story.

Yes, Crow is gutless. It's his career, and by not "sacrificing" a bit of money in the short term, he cost himself a tremendous amount of earning potential throughout the course of his career.

Terrible, terrible decision.

Now, fast forward to this year: this should have been the type of negotiation that should have already been completed. If baseball is this kid's top priority, he should realize the importance of getting his career going. And now he'll continue to play the waiting game and posture like he's going to re-enter the draft when everyone knows that's complete bullshit.

For what? Another few hundred thousand, and the beat goes on.

WoodDraw 08-17-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5980963)
LMAO.

Then I guess we can never discuss anything on this forum b/c there isn't a single sports-related topic that enables us to know all the sides of the story.

Yes, Crow is gutless. It's his career, and by not "sacrificing" a bit of money in the short term, he cost himself a tremendous amount of earning potential throughout the course of his career.

Terrible, terrible decision.

Now, fast forward to this year: this should have been the type of negotiation that should have already been completed. If baseball is this kid's top priority, he should realize the importance of getting his career going. And now he'll continue to play the waiting game and posture like he's going to re-enter the draft when everyone knows that's complete bullshit.

For what? Another few hundred thousand, and the beat goes on.

You can discuss whatever you want. I prefer not to call other people gutless pussies, especially when I don't know everything. But that's me.

Crow has proven everything he needs to by becoming one of the top draft prospects in the world. The Nationals and the Royals aren't a non-for-profit or a local charity. They're businesses, and profitable ones at that.

So I don't see why Crow should be forced to take a below market bonus simply to prove to you, the Royals, or whoever that he cares about what he does.

The number 11 pick signed for $3.9 million, and the number 13 pick signed for $2.75 million (both today, on their deadlines, btw). Using those two numbers as brackets, I see nothing unreasonable in demands or anything outside normal negotiating happenings.

DeezNutz 08-17-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 5981033)
You can discuss whatever you want. I prefer not to call other people gutless pussies, especially when I don't know everything. But that's me.

Crow has proven everything he needs to by becoming one of the top draft prospects in the world. The Nationals and the Royals aren't a non-for-profit or a local charity. They're businesses, and profitable ones at that.

So I don't see why Crow should be forced to take a below market bonus simply to prove to you, the Royals, or whoever that he cares about what he does.

The number 11 pick signed for $3.9 million, and the number 13 pick signed for $2.75 million (both today, on their deadlines, btw). Using those two numbers as brackets, I see nothing unreasonable in demands or anything outside normal negotiating happenings.

The Royals have offered $3M.

Let's say Crow wants them to split the difference. Fine. But is it really worth continuing to wait, and further delaying one's progress to FA, when the "real" money is made with the second contract, over 350K?

Obviously not. When I say he's a "gutless pussy," this is crude shorthand for: I see a dumbass kid who is being led by the nose by agents who don't have his best interest at heart and only want to suck the system for every penny possible.

They've already negatively affected the kid's bottom line, but Crow has to grow a pair and have a part in the process. According to media reports, he's completely hands off in the process. Big mistake. I'm not saying he should be at the negotiating table, but he needs to make sure he's directing the people who are supposed to be working for him. For. Him. Not giving him orders.

Someone needs to tell this kid to wake up. No one's abusing him financially. He's received fair offers from both the Nats and Royals, all well over slot. Now it's time to decide what's most important.

If I'm a GM, it would have to be a once-in-a-generation talent for me to select a player who willingly sat out a season.

Sure-Oz 08-18-2009 12:10 AM

He won't get this money next year, try sitting out for 2 years crowe you dumb****

Buck 08-18-2009 01:04 AM

So did Crow sign or not?

Reaper16 08-18-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5981155)
So did Crow sign or not?

The deadline doesn't count for Crow. He didn't sign tonight, but that doesn't mean that he can't or won't later.

doomy3 08-18-2009 07:46 AM

Did we get Myers and Dwyer signed?

DeezNutz 08-18-2009 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5981298)
Did we get Myers and Dwyer signed?

Yes.

The latter received the largest contract in the history of the 4th round. 1.45M, I believe.

DeezNutz 08-18-2009 02:01 PM

Farnsworth back up with the big club. Alex Gordon optioned to AAA to make room for this pitching stud.

Just reported on 810. I'll try to track down a link.

http://www.kansascity.com/784/story/1390760.html

Mecca 08-18-2009 02:04 PM

Alex Gordon>Zimmerman, Braun and Longoria eh?

DeezNutz 08-18-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5982589)
Alex Gordon>Zimmerman, Braun and Longoria eh?

It sucks shit.

Longoria might, MIGHT, have been an equal prospect coming out of college, but the rest weren't considered on the same level.

Typical Royals shit. Any of the other 3 would have been great, but we were burned.

What the Longoria situation should have taught us, however, is always take the best position player at the very top of the draft.

sedated 08-18-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5982599)
What the Longoria situation should have taught us, however, is always take the best position player at the very top of the draft.

acording to pretty much everyone, Gordon was.

Mecca 08-18-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5982611)
acording to pretty much everyone, Gordon was.

But we didn't take Longoria because of Gordon...


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