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Strongside 12-31-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 9262089)
**** it. I'm using this as my avatar. The rep has been sent.

Feel free. I would use it myself, but Don Draper is just a tad cooler than Lando in my book. Just a tad.

The Franchise 12-31-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9261800)
Pestilence: I know you've said emphatically that Brian Kelly wouldn't leave Notre Dame, and you would know more than me on this.

I think he is the perfect candidate. The guy has a long track record of building winners, has a high football IQ, and builds toughness into his players.

1. If we threw the bank at him with the power he'll have, what chances exist that we could lure him to the NFL?

2. Do you think he'd be a good NFL coach?

I don't see him leaving ND for the NFL anytime soon. He's stated before that ND is his dream job.

I think he's a better college coach than an NFL coach.

WildTurkey 12-31-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 9262021)
It will not be any of these people.

Very insightful.. Thank you

Easy 6 12-31-2012 10:22 PM

What if?

What if its Holmgren GM, Reid HC?

Defcon 5 meltdown?

Or could they reform and renew the old west coast magic together, i've argued against reid time and again, but if he's so damned determined to be a pro coach at all costs... why not here, i sound crazy to myself advocating for this feverish fanatic.

But if he wants to burn in attempting to get his ring, the ring that you just know drives him every day, why not take the chance on driven fanatic?

Holmgren... did absolutely NOTHING of note in cleveland, its impossible to make a current case for him, but i certainly do remember the quarterback specific HC who managed to corral and elevate a young talent into being a good player by being a micromanaging, up your ass on every play dictator.

Just food for thought, its a heady time, ripe with possibilities, tear it apart or think about it as you will...

Setsuna 12-31-2012 10:24 PM

TOM GAMBLE!? Heckkkkk yesssssss!!!!! Count it!!!

BigRedChief 01-01-2013 10:37 AM

I appreciate this statement from Clark. I appreciate his recognizing that Pioli was out of control. Realigning the struture of the Chiefs to create a positive environment allowing us to possibly get the top coaches in the NFL. But.........

He should have spoke up during the season. He should have voiced the same feelings he talked about in the press release. Other owners spoke out about their poor performance, he remained silent. He lives in Dallas. All it did was enforce the feeling that he was an out of town and touch owner.

He gets no more breaks from me. His Dad despite staying with Steadman for way too many years at least cared. Clark needs to show me more or the next time we suck, we need to go after him, embarrass him in front of his friends. The gloves are off.

And WTF was this "some" of the best fans in the NFL. Every team declares they have the best fans in the NFL. Whats up with that Clark? Is that some kind of shot?

Groves 01-01-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9260382)
if you take away Super Bowls on the resume, I think Andy Reid shits all over Cowher and Billick

better QB development, drafts better talent, better production, etc. Defense is shaky but that has been a mess the last couple years, pair him with a top of the line DC and ??? and I'd like to think our defense has way better pieces in place than the Eagles did to carry an Andy Reid led team. After 10 years with a team, Andy Reid had a lot of players get old on that defense and leave over years. (Dawkins, Vincent, Trotter, Douglas, Mike Mamula (kidding), etc) and just lost touch


Better Mustache, don't forget.

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9262331)
What if?

What if its Holmgren GM, Reid HC?

Defcon 5 meltdown?

Or could they reform and renew the old west coast magic together, i've argued against reid time and again, but if he's so damned determined to be a pro coach at all costs... why not here, i sound crazy to myself advocating for this feverish fanatic.

But if he wants to burn in attempting to get his ring, the ring that you just know drives him every day, why not take the chance on driven fanatic?

Holmgren... did absolutely NOTHING of note in cleveland, its impossible to make a current case for him, but i certainly do remember the quarterback specific HC who managed to corral and elevate a young talent into being a good player by being a micromanaging, up your ass on every play dictator.

Just food for thought, its a heady time, ripe with possibilities, tear it apart or think about it as you will...

Jfc.

Holmgren has coached three hall of fame qbs. Took two different teams to a super bowl. Took a third team to a super bowl win as an offensive coordinator. And was a winner almost every year he's been a coach. He isn't a good gm. Guess what, shanahan failed in this role too.

But by all means. Let's throw this guy out because he was an okay general manager. Even though, by the way, the browns were a very competitive team this year despite their record.

BigMeatballDave 01-01-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9263946)
Jfc.

Holmgren has coached three hall of fame qbs. Took two different teams to a super bowl. Took a third team to a super bowl win as an offensive coordinator. And was a winner almost every year he's been a coach. He isn't a good gm. Guess what, shanahan failed in this role too.

But by all means. Let's throw this guy out because he was an okay general manager. Even though, by the way, the browns were a very competitive team this year despite their record.

HE'S 64. NO.

Hootie 01-01-2013 11:17 AM

I wonder if Reid takes the job if he'll actually run the ball with Charles or insist on throwing the ball 80 times regardless of whether or not the run game is working

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9263957)
HE'S 64. NO.

Shanahan is 60. Coughlin is 66. Hell, bill Snyder is 73. There is nothing in holmgren that leads anyone to believe he doesn't have a good 5 years in him. At least.

Easy 6 01-01-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9263946)
Jfc.

Holmgren has coached three hall of fame qbs. Took two different teams to a super bowl. Took a third team to a super bowl win as an offensive coordinator. And was a winner almost every year he's been a coach. He isn't a good gm. Guess what, shanahan failed in this role too.

But by all means. Let's throw this guy out because he was an okay general manager. Even though, by the way, the browns were a very competitive team this year despite their record.

So what exactly are you saying?

"he's a ****ing terrible GM, but oh by the way, the browns were better than advertised nonetheless"

I threw it out because he and Reid are two guys who know each other extremely well, come from the same philosphy and could probably work together very well.

Save the "JFC" and quit grandstanding, its not such an AWFUL idea.

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9263965)
I wonder if Reid takes the job if he'll actually run the ball with Charles or insist on throwing the ball 80 times regardless of whether or not the run game is working

Don't mistake what Reid is. He uses a lot of pass plays that are practically run plays. The offense is a very good fit for Charles. Charles will get less carries, but he'd get a ton of receptions.

Strongside 01-01-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9263977)
Don't mistake what Reid is. He uses a lot of pass plays that are practically run plays. The offense is a very good fit for Charles. Charles will get less carries, but he'd get a ton of receptions.

Think Westbrook.

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9263975)
So what exactly are you saying?

"he's a ****ing terrible GM, but oh by the way, the browns were better than advertised nonetheless"

I threw it out because he and Reid are two guys who know each other extremely well, come from the same philosphy and could probably work together very well.

Save the "JFC" and quit grandstanding, its not such an AWFUL idea.

I am not saying jfc about Reid. I am talking about the ridiculous idea that his tenure as gm reflects on his ability to coach. But if you want to bring up his record as gm, it's not the disaster people want to pretend it was. The browns were a talented team that was competitive in pretty much every game to begin this season.


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