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Rain Man 09-15-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brorth (Post 7911161)
Sending proposal...

The deal is done.

Rain Man 09-15-2011 07:40 PM

League 1 (My last team in this league)

Richmond Tigerhawks

Lost a few late picks due to abandonment, but not too bad.

This team has extra depth at FB, WR, G, C, SS, and particularly DT. We need a CB and DE, and could use upgrades at QB, WR, and OLB, and depth at LT, RT, FS, and ILB.

Jamaal Charles HB
James Starks HB
LaRod Stephens-Howling HB
Isaac Redman HB

Good starter and reasonable depth. I'm happy.

John Conner FB
Corey McIntyre FB

Two solid starters. Nice setup.

Mark Sanchez QB
Matt Hasselbeck QB
Tyler Thigpen QB

Eh. Waited a little too long to draft a QB. Sanchez will be the horse we ride.

Roy E. Williams WR
Malcom Floyd WR
Donald Jones WR
Josh Morgan WR
Derrick Mason WR
Dwayne Harris WR
Mardy Gilyard WR

Four starters, though I'm not sure that any are legitimate #1s. Jamaal Charles needs more carries.

Scott Chandler TE
Evan Moore TE
Matt Spaeth TE
Tony Moeaki TE

Lost Moeaki for the year, but Chandler and Moore are starters. Not star-studded, but okay.

Sam Baker LT
Barry Sims LT

I think Sims got cut, so our starter is fine but depth is weak.

Kraig Urbik G
Chris Williams G
Jake Scott G
Danny Watkins G
Mike McGlynn G

Strong here. Three starters and two promising young backups.

Jonathan Goodwin C
Will Montgomery C

Two reasonable starters here. That's fine.

Andre Smith RT

No depth, so we'll hope that Smith stays healthy and motivated.

Josh Scobee K
Joe Nedney K

Nedney appears to have been cut, so we picked up Scobee

Kevin Huber P

Fine here.

Dashon Goldson FS
Qinton Carter FS
Macho Harris FS
Mark Legree FS

Lots of bodies, but I think Goldson is the only one still in the league. Couple of wasted draft picks in the rookie draft.

Melvin Bullitt SS
Courtney Greene SS

Two fine starters.

Sheldon Brown CB
Curtis Brown CB
Brandon Harris CB
David Jones CB

Yikes. One starter and a couple of dime backs. In trouble here.

Clark Haggans OLB
Manny Lawson OLB
Gabe Miller OLB

Miller is out for the year. Two reasonable starters, but not great and no depth. Yikes.

Derrick O. Johnson ILB
Lofa Tatupu MLB

I don't think Tatupu is on a team, so hopefully DJ stays healthy.

Israel Idonije DE
Osi Umenyiora DE
Jeremy Jarmon DE
Stylez G. White DE

Not a good situation. Idonije is starting and Umenyiora is now a backup in NY. Other two guys got cut.

Chris Canty DT
Terrance Knighton DT
Mike Patterson DT
Fred Robbins DT
Tony Brown DT

Very strong here, with four legitimate starters.

kstater 09-15-2011 07:54 PM

Proposed a trade Rainman.

Rain Man 09-15-2011 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7911785)
Proposed a trade Rainman.


Hmm, your guy's not a fit for me because I need a 4-3 end. However, I'm very interested in whoever is your third CB (Tramon Williams, Cromartie, or Patrick Peterson. Any interest in John Conner and one of my receivers for any of them? I've got several guys who would be a good third receiver for you. Floyd's probably the only one I can't trade.

Rain Man 09-15-2011 08:50 PM

League 2

St. Louis Spiders

We have a star halfback to trade and some fullbacks, and we need a WR and SS, and could stand upgrades at FS, OLB, and maybe DE. Anyone?

Adrian L. Peterson HB
Maurice Jones-Drew HB
Mewelde Moore HB
Toby Gerhart HB

Okay, we've got two stars here. Jones-Drew is available for trade since we need help in other areas.

Brit Miller FB
Earnest Graham FB
Owen Marecic FB
Charles Clay FB

They moved Clay and I hit the jackpot on FBs, so I have four of them. Graham can also be a third-down back. Anyone need a fullback?

Kyle Orton QB
Seneca Wallace QB
Jake Locker QB

Not a position of strength, but we have a stopgap starter, reasonable backup, and QBOTF. I guess we're good.

Steve L. Smith WR
Dexter McCluster WR
Demetrius Williams WR
Scotty McKnight WR
Aldrick Robinson WR

Disasterville. One receiver and McCluster. Send help. Now.

Evan Moore TE
Randy McMichael TE
Ernest Wilford TE

Moore is a starter, but we're not exactly strong. We'll be riding the running game.

Jeff Backus LT
Bryant McKinnie LT
Anthony Collins LT

Two good starters. We're fine.

Stephen Peterman G
Shawn Lauvao G
Ted Larsen G
Antoine Caldwell G

You don't know the names, but we have three legit starters. We're fine.

Brad Meester C
Adam Snyder C
Jamaal Jackson C

Starter and a couple of solid backups. Fine.

Tony Pashos RT

Decent starter, but no depth.

Jason Hanson K
Shane Andrus K

Fine here. Andrus got cut so we picked up the venerable Hanson.

Brian Moorman P
Chris Kluwe P

Accidentally drafted two. We're good.

Kendrick Lewis FS
Usama Young FS
Robert Sands FS

(Sigh.) Okay. Come through for me, Kendrick.

Kyle McCarthy SS
Eric Berry SS

(Heavy sigh.) We're screwed here. Need to pick someone up.

Asante Samuel CB
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB
Walter Thurmond CB
Patrick Lee CB

Could use another starter or nickel here, but it's okay.

Kavell Conner OLB
Scott Fujita OLB
Andy Studebaker OLB
Phillip Dillard OLB

No big names, but we're okay.

Gary Brackett MLB
Corey Mays ILB

Brackett is fine for the short term, but no depth.

Red Bryant DE
Antonio D. Smith DE
Jayme Mitchell DE
Brandon Deaderick DE

We have three legitimate starters that no one's every heard of. We'll do fine.

Chris Canty DT
Kelly Gregg DT
Nick Fairley DT
Gabe Watson NT

Not sure what to think here. I think we're okay, and if Fairley does well we'll be fine.

Rain Man 09-15-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7911914)
Hmm, your guy's not a fit for me because I need a 4-3 end. However, I'm very interested in whoever is your third CB (Tramon Williams, Cromartie, or Patrick Peterson. Any interest in John Conner and one of my receivers for any of them? I've got several guys who would be a good third receiver for you. Floyd's probably the only one I can't trade.

I made a different offer. See what you think. It gives us both a good starter at one position and upgrades our depth at another.

kstater 09-16-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7911965)
I made a different offer. See what you think. It gives us both a good starter at one position and upgrades our depth at another.

Had to decline. I'm aware that I need a FB(apparently I drafted a retired one), but I can live without one if needed, and I know CB is a strong suit of my team and I plan to keep it that way. I'm not opposed to moving off the second part of the trade though.

Iowanian 09-16-2011 08:46 AM

Fear the Angry Clam Hammers

LT-Russel Okung, Jeff Backus
G-Steve Hutchison, Stacy Andrews, John Moffitt, Rex Hadnot(listed as FB, but he's a swing guard/Center)
C- Casey Rabach, Dominic Raiola
RT-Marshall Yanda, Mark Tausher, Flozell Adams (we have some trade bait here)
QB- Mathew Stafford, Cam Newton (probably need a #3)
HB- Adrian Peterson, Shonn Greene, Donald Brown
WR- Michael Crabtree, Brandon Lloyd, Mike Sims-Walker,Jerricho Cotchery, Andre Caldwell, Brandon Tate
TE- Zach Miller, Jeff King, Leonard Pope, Lance Kendricks
FB-Mike Karney

3-4
NT-Casey Hampton, Chris Neild, Pat Williams
DE-Aaron Kampman, Adrian Clayborn, Cory Redding, Dwan Edwards
ILB-London Fletcher, Larry Foote, Paris Lennon (Probably need some depth)
OLB- Calvin Pace, David Bowens, Quentin Groves, Scott Fujita, Travis Laboy, Tully Banta-Cain
CB- Terrence Newman, Leodis McKelvin, Kyle Arrington, Kelvin Hayden, Kelly Jennings, Cortez Allen
FS- Tenard Jackson, Kendrick Lewis, James Sanders, CC Brown
SS-Dawan Landry, Erik Coleman, Tyler Sash
K- (Neglected this position and need to make a move)
P-Hunter Smith




now run and tell that, run and tell that! Home boy

kstater 09-16-2011 08:59 AM

Dallas K-Swiss Tubes

Safety:O.J Atogwe, M. Griffin, Morgan Burnett, Reed Doughtry
CB: Cromartie, T. Williams, P. Peterson, Orlando Scandrick, J. Brown
OLB: James Harrison, C. Mathews, Ryan Kerrigan, Frank Zombo, Antwon Applewhite
ILB: Daryl Washington, Brandon Spikes, Keith Brooking, Mario Haggan
DE: Cullen Jenkins, John Henderson, Marcus Dixon,
C.J Wilson, Igor Olshanshky
NT: Shaun Rogers, Steven Paea, Steve McLendon

WR: Lee Evans, Ocho-Cinco, Steve Breaston, Jerome Simpson, A. Pettis, Damian Williams
TE: Dustin Keller, Billy Bajema
Tackle: M. Roos, Jeff Otah, Jamal Brown, Jah Reid
Guard: David Arkin, Rob Sims, Shawn Andrews, Doug Legursky
C:Olin Kreutz, Jamaal Jackson
QB:Sam Bradford, Caleb Henne, Kerry Collins
RB:R. Grant, Brandon Jacobs, Justin Forsett, Madison Hedgecock
K:Stephen Gostkowski
P:Matt Dodge

Old Dog 09-16-2011 11:36 AM

Pomona Platypi (L2)

QB: J. Freeman, A. Dalton, L. McCown
RB: A. Bradshaw, J. Starks, A. Dixon, D. Brown
FB: J. Kuhn
TE: G. Olsen, J. Cook
WR: S. Rice, P. Garcon, S. Smith(Phi), M. Spurlock#, R. Moss, K. Durham, J. Jernigan, B. Obomanu
LT: J. Long, J. Bushrod
LG: D. College, D. Lutui
C: Maurkice Pouncey, J. Zuttah
RG: H. Blalock, J. Scott
RT: J. Otah, A. Davis

NT/DT: P. Soliai, R. Miller, G. Gibson
DT/DE: T. Jackson, C. Liuget, D. Peko, S. Fua, M. Neal
OLB: M. Kiwanuka, D. Moch, N. Roach, G. Hayes, Q. Groves
ILB: J. Beason*, D'Qwell Jackson, K. Morrison, J. Goff, H.B. Blades
S: B. Meriweather, D. Landry, M. Griffin, S. Brown
CB: B. Carr, J. Joseph, P. Peterson, C. Cook, T. Jennings

K: N. Kaeding*
P: M. McBriar
KR/PR: M. Spurlock#


Definitely tried to stay young and build for the future. Took a late flyer on R. Moss. Have already lost Beason and Kaeding, so it looks like McBriar will do double duty as a kicker as well.
Probably have one of the best if not the best offensive lines in the league, am quite happy at QB and with the back four of the defense, but am unspectacular at most other positions

Rain Man 09-17-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7912583)
Fear the Angry Clam Hammers

LT-Russel Okung, Jeff Backus
G-Steve Hutchison, Stacy Andrews, John Moffitt, Rex Hadnot(listed as FB, but he's a swing guard/Center)
C- Casey Rabach, Dominic Raiola
RT-Marshall Yanda, Mark Tausher, Flozell Adams (we have some trade bait here)
QB- Mathew Stafford, Cam Newton (probably need a #3)
HB- Adrian Peterson, Shonn Greene, Donald Brown
WR- Michael Crabtree, Brandon Lloyd, Mike Sims-Walker,Jerricho Cotchery, Andre Caldwell, Brandon Tate
TE- Zach Miller, Jeff King, Leonard Pope, Lance Kendricks
FB-Mike Karney

3-4
NT-Casey Hampton, Chris Neild, Pat Williams
DE-Aaron Kampman, Adrian Clayborn, Cory Redding, Dwan Edwards
ILB-London Fletcher, Larry Foote, Paris Lennon (Probably need some depth)
OLB- Calvin Pace, David Bowens, Quentin Groves, Scott Fujita, Travis Laboy, Tully Banta-Cain
CB- Terrence Newman, Leodis McKelvin, Kyle Arrington, Kelvin Hayden, Kelly Jennings, Cortez Allen
FS- Tenard Jackson, Kendrick Lewis, James Sanders, CC Brown
SS-Dawan Landry, Erik Coleman, Tyler Sash
K- (Neglected this position and need to make a move)
P-Hunter Smith




now run and tell that, run and tell that! Home boy


Big fan of your offense, where I think you're strong at every position other than maybe TE and of course no established star at QB. Defense? You may need to outscore the other team.

Rain Man 09-17-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7912615)
Dallas K-Swiss Tubes

Safety:O.J Atogwe, M. Griffin, Morgan Burnett, Reed Doughtry
CB: Cromartie, T. Williams, P. Peterson, Orlando Scandrick, J. Brown
OLB: James Harrison, C. Mathews, Ryan Kerrigan, Frank Zombo, Antwon Applewhite
ILB: Daryl Washington, Brandon Spikes, Keith Brooking, Mario Haggan
DE: Cullen Jenkins, John Henderson, Marcus Dixon,
C.J Wilson, Igor Olshanshky
NT: Shaun Rogers, Steven Paea, Steve McLendon

WR: Lee Evans, Ocho-Cinco, Steve Breaston, Jerome Simpson, A. Pettis, Damian Williams
TE: Dustin Keller, Billy Bajema
Tackle: M. Roos, Jeff Otah, Jamal Brown, Jah Reid
Guard: David Arkin, Rob Sims, Shawn Andrews, Doug Legursky
C:Olin Kreutz, Jamaal Jackson
QB:Sam Bradford, Caleb Henne, Kerry Collins
RB:R. Grant, Brandon Jacobs, Justin Forsett, Madison Hedgecock
K:Stephen Gostkowski
P:Matt Dodge


Pretty stout D and a very strong defensive backfield. It'll be interesting to see how your offense fares - some solid guys, but no big stars at the skill positions for the most part other than maybe Ochocinco.

Rain Man 09-17-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7912962)
Pomona Platypi (L2)

QB: J. Freeman, A. Dalton, L. McCown
RB: A. Bradshaw, J. Starks, A. Dixon, D. Brown
FB: J. Kuhn
TE: G. Olsen, J. Cook
WR: S. Rice, P. Garcon, S. Smith(Phi), M. Spurlock#, R. Moss, K. Durham, J. Jernigan, B. Obomanu
LT: J. Long, J. Bushrod
LG: D. College, D. Lutui
C: Maurkice Pouncey, J. Zuttah
RG: H. Blalock, J. Scott
RT: J. Otah, A. Davis

NT/DT: P. Soliai, R. Miller, G. Gibson
DT/DE: T. Jackson, C. Liuget, D. Peko, S. Fua, M. Neal
OLB: M. Kiwanuka, D. Moch, N. Roach, G. Hayes, Q. Groves
ILB: J. Beason*, D'Qwell Jackson, K. Morrison, J. Goff, H.B. Blades
S: B. Meriweather, D. Landry, M. Griffin, S. Brown
CB: B. Carr, J. Joseph, P. Peterson, C. Cook, T. Jennings

K: N. Kaeding*
P: M. McBriar
KR/PR: M. Spurlock#


Definitely tried to stay young and build for the future. Took a late flyer on R. Moss. Have already lost Beason and Kaeding, so it looks like McBriar will do double duty as a kicker as well.
Probably have one of the best if not the best offensive lines in the league, am quite happy at QB and with the back four of the defense, but am unspectacular at most other positions


Agreed on your o-line, and that may work well with Bradshaw. With the o-line and Freeman you can buy some time for your receivers to come open. Your d-backfield looks good, but we'll see how your d-line and pass rush hold up. You're going to need a couple of rookies to contribute.

Rain Man 09-17-2011 05:53 PM

League 2

Independence Spiders

Interesting team. They lost a bunch of later picks before I caught them up. They're hurting at WR, K, and could use upgrades at OLB and DE. They need depth at LT and C.

Their biggest problem is on the defensive line. They have one really good 4-3 DT and three 4-3 starters at DT, plus one NT. But at DE they only have one 4-3 DE who's so-so, and 3 decent to good 3-4 DEs. If they go 3-4 they'd need to upgrade at NT and get depth at ILB, or if they go 4-3 they'd need to upgrade at DE. Any offers?

Shonn Greene HB
Michael Bush HB
Kendall Hunter HB
Alex Green HB HB

It'd be nice to have a star here, but we've got a couple of solid starters, and Hunter on third down.

Jerome Felton FB
Heath Evans FB

Evans retired, but Felton is all we need. He's good.

Donovan McNabb QB
Christian Ponder QB
Kyle Boller QB

Typical QB situation. Stopgap solid starter, QBOTF, and older insurance policy. We're fine.

Larry Fitzgerald WR
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
Ramses Barden WR
Niles Paul WR
T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR

Yeesh. Pretty weak here after Fitzgerald. Bey can start and the others all are backups at best. Need help here.

Dallas Clark TE
Kellen Davis TE
Kyle Rudolph TE

Two starters. We're fine, and Clark is a top-notch guy who is an extra receiver for the most part.

J'Marcus Webb LT

Geez. The Bears shuffled their line all around, but Webb ended up starting. Not a star, but he's mammoth for our power run game.

Kory Lichtensteiger G
Jason Pinkston G
Richie Incognito G
Mike McGlynn G
Leonard Davis G

Ended up with all sorts of guards as people's positions got shuffled. We're fine here.

Roberto Garza C

Need some depth, but otherwise fine.

Gabe Carimi RT
Khalif Barnes RT
Lydon Murtha RT

Carimi ended up on the right side, so it's good to have a rookie starter. We have one at RT and one at G.

Joe Nedney K

Dang. He got cut. Need some help here.

Donnie Jones P

Good punter. Good, good punter.

Thomas DeCoud FS
Dashon Goldson FS

Two starters. We'll give DeCoud the nod.

Sean Jones SS
Deon Grant SS

Jones is a starter, so we're fine.

Cortland Finnegan CB
Josh Wilson CB
Tracy Porter CB
Travis Daniels CB
William James CB

Reasonable starters, but could use higher-quality depth.

Tamba Hali OLB
Erik Walden OLB
Thomas Davis OLB
Frank Zombo OLB
Mike Peterson OLB

Hali's a good leader for us, and then we've got some journeymen.

London Fletcher-Baker ILB
Paris Lenon ILB

We'll have to see who wins this training camp battle of European cities.

Robert Geathers DE
Gerard Warren DE
Dwan Edwards DE
Ryan Pickett DE
Darryl Tapp DE
Dave Tollefson DE
Jamaal Anderson DE
Trevor Scott DE

Okay, here's a challenge. This team has one starting 4-3 end and the next 3 guys are all 3-4 ends. Might have to think about some trades here. And why did I draft so many DEs?

Kevin Williams DT
Remi Ayodele DT
Henry Melton DT
Shaun Cody DT
Corey Peters DT

With Williams we're definitely going 4-3, and we've got lots of depth. Cody is a starting 3-4 nose tackle who can be trade bait.

kstater 09-17-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7915617)
Pretty stout D and a very strong defensive backfield. It'll be interesting to see how your offense fares - some solid guys, but no big stars at the skill positions for the most part other than maybe Ochocinco.

Obviously I concentrated on D realizing everyone would use the early rounds on Offense. Happy with the offense as well. If Otah can come back from injury and be strong, I think I'm in a good spot.


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