There is no way this move will hurt the Chiefs. Vrabel is a high motor football player that knows how to win. None of our current LB's can say that!

Exactly.

The drafturbators are way too extreme.

Yes, the draft is important.

No, you can't win with all 25 year olds.

First day picks are off limits...

Second day picks are what, way more miss than hit.

We need veterans to teach the young guys how to play in the NFL. The drafturbators like OTWP, Mecca and Hamas (for as smart as they are) don't seem to get that I guess.

If it's a 7th or a 2010 6th or something like that, whatever. If it's anything else, it's almost as dumb as the Joe Germaine trade.

Flushing Dorsey down the toilet is what really bothers me.

Well played. I guess it takes a sense of humor rather than unbridled rage in order to make something even resembling a funny about me. Take note, angerbots.

Hamas already has TWO strikes on Pioli...

These guys are going to hate Pioli more than Carl if we don't win a Super Bowl in 5 years.

It's really funny, I think that Herm actually Hermified a lot of the fans, and we've come to the conclusion that if a guy is over 30, he's worthless.

I found this comment in the Vrabel thread on Pats Planet to be striking in the difference of mentality between the fan bases right now:

It's borderline reeruned anymore.

It's the same people leading both charges too, ironically.

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:nosmilie:

I hate to tell you guys, Pioli spends more on lunch money in a week than we make in two months, not collectively of course. There's a reason for that, he's the MAN and you're not. Vrabel has talent and he'll help this team.

Exactly.

i abstain

And there's another big question mark from the new guys in charge....

Patriots fan here, just thought I'd stop by and give my 2 cents on Vrabel.

First off, he's one of my favorite Pats. He was a key defender on all 3 of the SB runs, and he's a high-intelligence, high-work ethic guy. He struggled a lot last year, but his shoulder was injured pretty much all season. FWIW, I don't think that Pioli would trade for him without knowing that it was going to heal fine. Assuming that, I don't think he'll come back at his 2007 level (12.5 sacks, 77 tackles, mostly in the first 2/3rds of the season), but you should expect closer to 2007 than 2008.

A lot of us had projected that Tedy Bruschi would be gone, and Vrabel would move inside to take his place. Vrabel has played quite a bit of ILB in the past (in 2005, when Bruschi had his stroke before the season, Vrabel moved inside for pretty much the whole year). I wouldn't assume that he was signed to be an OLB in a 3-4, because he's definitely a hybrid and can play either way. He's also by all accounts a leader in the locker room. I've been following the Chiefs a bit since Pioli left, and I do want him to succeed in KC (just not at the Pats' expense ;P). Anyways, depending on what you guys actually gave up, I think that it could be a good move. If I had to guess, I'd say that it was either a 3rd/4th rounder, or maybe part of a larger trade with some swaps in draft position.

I'm not psyched with the move as a Pats fan in of itself. I like Vrabel, and think that he could continue to contribute for us. I'm encouraged, though, in that I think that it's either setting up a big move or it means that our young guys are progressing well.

Ding ding ding.

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