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Mecca 09-23-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6101561)
Jamon Meredith was signed by the Bills.

I saw that.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 12:57 AM

Boy, you know, that Larry Johnson going down when completely surrounded on 2nd and 12 on that last drive was just ****ing stupid!! He should have fought for that extra yardage to put it in a more desirable down and distance, even if there were four guys pushing him back and trying to rip the ball out. It's not like anything could be worse than 3rd and 9. I'd much rather have him pick up that extra 8 centimeters and risk losing the ball. That seems the proper cost/benefit analysis of the situation.

Hootie 09-23-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6101556)
Yes, clearly more deleterious than throwing a left handed interception from your own end zone, or overthrowing an open receiver at the 10 yard line that leads to easy points, or missing an open receiver and causing a 70 yard INT return, or taking a sack when you could just throw the ball away, or losing track of the game and clocking it on fourth down, or lining up under the guard, or throwing a ball up for grabs when you're in the clutches of a defender on first down.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe he was just trying to get the **** rid of the ball or legally ground it so that the clock would stop?

Am I the only one who remembers multiple NFL teams picking up 4th and 18 or longer? It's a hell of a lot easier than scoring a touchdown when the other team has first and goal because of a sack/fumble or a boneheaded pick.

He threw a 2 yard checkdown to a double covered tight end that wasn't really all that close to out of bounds...

It was a horrible, terrible decision...and the sad thing is...he didn't even look for anyone else...it's like he snapped the ball, felt a little pressure (or thought pressure was on its way) and had his mind already made up...like he didn't even know the situation...

At least Cassel can improvise with his legs...Brodie showed me all I needed to see right there...he doesn't really CARE about winning...he cares about not pissing off Haley and not getting killed. His confidence is shattered...

Why anyone is even talking about Brodie Croyle is ridiculous...typical, pessimistic, KC Chiefs idiocracy fueled by our beloved columnist Jason Whitlock...who is apparently ridiculously good at his job...

I mean, we knew Hamas and Mecca were going to jump on Cassel as soon as possible...but great, now we have the whole local and national media looking at Brodie's box scores (and 30 yards of 1st half offense!!!!) and trying to create controversy when it's just not going to happen.

Cassel > Brodie...it's not even close...even if Cassel does really suck. Brodie is an average backup...and potentially a great 3rd string NFL QB.

Not a starter...

Cassel on the other hand...at least he has potential.

Mecca 09-23-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6101562)
Yea don't blame Seattle whos QB is 34 and injury prone.

Well he knows me and doesn't know Seattle fans but he frankly straight up told me well before the trade ever happened that he thought Cassel was a bum.

Titty Meat 09-23-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101566)
Well he knows me and doesn't know Seattle fans but he frankly straight up told me well before the trade ever happened that he thought Cassel was a bum.

I see. I disagree Cassel isn't a bum and it's funny how everyone was like "Cassel lost 5 games with an undefeated team!". You seen the Patriots this year? That o-line is shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6101565)
He threw a 2 yard checkdown to a double covered tight end that wasn't really all that close to out of bounds...

It was a horrible, terrible decision...and the sad thing is...he didn't even look for anyone else...it's like he snapped the ball, felt a little pressure (or thought pressure was on its way) and had his mind already made up...like he didn't even know the situation...

At least Cassel can improvise with his legs...Brodie showed me all I needed to see right there...he doesn't really CARE about winning...he cares about not pissing off Haley and not getting killed. His confidence is shattered....

I wish you were smart enough to see the rampant irony in this post. I really do, because it's ****ing hilarious.

Hootie 09-23-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6101564)
Boy, you know, that Larry Johnson going down when completely surrounded on 2nd and 12 on that last drive was just ****ing stupid!! He should have fought for that extra yardage to put it in a more desirable down and distance, even if there were four guys pushing him back and trying to rip the ball out. It's not like anything could be worse than 3rd and 9. I'd much rather have him pick up that extra 8 centimeters and risk losing the ball. That seems the proper cost/benefit analysis of the situation.

3rd and 18...game is on the line...you have two downs to keep the drive/hopes of winning alive...and you waste one down on a checkdown pass when you don't even give the play a second to develop?

Yeah...real similar ****ing situations...

Someone explain to me how that was even remotely close to an intelligent decision by Brodie and I'll shut up.

Brodie was just happy to get out of there alive/have some decent numbers to put on his resume...that last series showed me all I needed to know from Brodie.

I guess everyone forgets he managed to put together ONE GOOD DRIVE against a Ravens defense that was trying to keep plays in front of them...and ONE GOOD PASS that led to a money FG by Mr. Irrelevant...

His performance was about as brutal as Haley's performance against Oakland.

Hootie 09-23-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6101569)
I wish you were smart enough to see the rampant irony in this post. I really do, because it's ****ing hilarious.

Really...point it out then...because you never make any points...you just strut around here like you know everything and you're a genius and you post clever .gifs and stupid shit like that...

Apparently, my football knowledge is vastly superior to yours if you are defending Brodie/his final drive against the Ravens...

There is no QB controversy, there isn't going to be one...and Brodie isn't NEARLY the QB that Matt Cassel is...and Cassel proved that in a lackluster performance last Sunday...where he clearly played a better game than Brodie and his one drive (against a prevent Ravens defense)...

tk13 09-23-2009 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101549)
One of my best friends is a Bills fan that lives in Jersey on Sunday night he said this to me..."If Sanchez keeps this up and the Jets end up good for a long time I'm blaming you and your stupid ass team"

Boo hoo. They are going to be good, and Sanchez is going to do a good job for them. And we aren't the team that let them trade up in the first round to get him.

DaneMcCloud 09-23-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6101574)
There is no QB controversy, there isn't going to be one...and Brodie isn't NEARLY the QB that Matt Cassel is...and Cassel proved that in a lackluster performance last Sunday...where he clearly played a better game than Brodie and his one drive (against a prevent Ravens defense)...

Seriously? Or is this a joke?

Cassel looked like ****ing Todd Blackledge out there: Dazed and Confused.

Brodie looked tentative but in control. He didn't throw one or even two interceptions on the road against most likely, the best defense in the league.

I think we're watching two different quarterbacks.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6101574)
Really...point it out then...because you never make any points...you just strut around here like you know everything and you're a genius and you post clever .gifs and stupid shit like that...

Apparently, my football knowledge is vastly superior to yours if you are defending Brodie/his final drive against the Ravens...

There is no QB controversy, there isn't going to be one...and Brodie isn't NEARLY the QB that Matt Cassel is...and Cassel proved that in a lackluster performance last Sunday...where he clearly played a better game than Brodie and his one drive (against a prevent Ravens defense)...

Holy shit, this is just disingenuous, and preposterously stupid.

You lay out your contention that Brodie's "mistake" was the worst thing any QB could do, ever. I precede to give you about 10-15 instances of far worse transgressions, some from the very same ****ing game you were commenting on, and I'm the one who doesn't make points?

If you want to talk about a QB panicking because they don't know the situation, then why don't you replay the last play of the first half on Sunday, genious, because the very same thing that you are calling out Croyle for (which by virtue of him doing, afforded the Chiefs an extra down), you excuse Cassel for, even though it directly took any chance for points off the board, and happened precisely because he didn't know what the **** was going on, and because he panicked due to a waft of pressure.

You really need to stop drinking, because you can't afford to lose any more brain cells. Your gray matter has to be like the Jews of Poland at this point

Titty Meat 09-23-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6101577)
Seriously? Or is this a joke?

Cassel looked like ****ing Todd Blackledge out there: Dazed and Confused.

Brodie looked tentative but in control. He didn't throw one or even two interceptions on the road against most likely, the best defense in the league.

I think we're watching two different quarterbacks.

Come on Dane Croyle hasn't won a game in 4 years dude.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-23-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6101525)
Why are we bashing Cassel? Its premature isnt it?

Billay, this is the Gods honest truth from me; it's not the bashing of Cassel, it's the bashing of the reality and fact that the yin/yang of the Chiefs as a team and as a whole is severely out of whack.
You can see it on the field, and if you're perceptive to the whole, you can feel it in your gut as well.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6101541)
I hope for the sake of our team Cassel is good because if he's not we're completely ****ed.

At best, set back for a little longer.

At worst, that's the crux, and we've entered in to an even BIGGER miasma cluster-**** than what came before now.

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6101543)
I bet you were shocked when he threw that touchdown. Admit it.

I was shocked when Bowe pulled that slop-bucket in. I'm glad Haley has made Dewayne his pet project.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-23-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6101576)
And we aren't the team that let them trade up in the first round to get him.

ROFLROFLROFL

Hootie 09-23-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6101577)
Seriously? Or is this a joke?

Cassel looked like ****ing Todd Blackledge out there: Dazed and Confused.

Brodie looked tentative but in control. He didn't throw one or even two interceptions on the road against most likely, the best defense in the league.

I think we're watching two different quarterbacks.

dude...

he did JACK SHIT for 3.5 ****ing quarters LMAO

the game plan was so incredibly pussified that it was almost like they knew they had no chance with brodie...so they built the gameplan that gave them the best chance to not get embarrassed...

we had ONE good offensive drive all game long...and that was when the ravens had no faith we could even move the ball...even when they weren't bringing pressure.

Are we kidding here?

Someone needs to go watch that Ravens game again...and it isn't me.


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