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Rain Man 12-11-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7247440)
This is a great point. I'm surprised you made it, but it's a great point nonetheless. o:-)

I tend to keep my best thoughts to myself so they don't get stolen.

the Talking Can 12-11-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7247432)
Unlike Carl, they actually proactively manage the team instead of letting things become crises.


does indeed seem to be the case.....and let me say once for old times sake:

**** you Carl

Chiefs Rool 12-11-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7247206)
Wow. Missed this earlier.

Not a huge fan of signing RBs to lucrative deals, but this specific contract seems to be reasonable, and it's worth taking a shot on a guy like Charles, who appears to be special.

Prop things to that Pioli guy.

Oh, and I hope we're already working on the Flowers extension. He's priority A. Then Bowe (depending upon the Fitz possibility), and then Hali.

sums up my thoughts exactly

BossChief 12-11-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7247206)

Oh, and I hope we're already working on the Flowers extension. He's priority A. Then Bowe (depending upon the Fitz possibility), and then Hali.

I agree on the three players, but Halis deal should be next, then Bowe then Flowers.

Simply because that is the order that we have the rights for the specific players.

If we hold player rights for 5 years, this is the final year that we own Halis rights and if we lost him, where would our pass rush be? Remember 2008 when we had 10 sacks?

ChiefsCountry 12-11-2010 07:48 PM

Judging by New England's track record I wonder how they will regard Flowers. New England sort of let its defensive backs walk.

BossChief 12-11-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7247631)
Judging by New England's track record I wonder how they will regard Flowers. New England sort of let its defensive backs walk.

Not Ty Law...well, until he was like 31.

I think they ****ed up with Asante Samuel, but I don't see Clark Pioli letting Flowers walk like NE did Asante... I think NE felt they could do so and they still had enough talent to sustain a playoff caliber defense without him, this is a different situation.

ChiefsCountry 12-11-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7247645)
Not Ty Law...well, until he was like 31.

I think they ****ed up with Asante Samuel, but I don't see Clark Pioli letting Flowers walk like NE did Asante... I think NE felt they could do so and they still had enough talent to sustain a playoff caliber defense without him, this is a different situation.

Don't forget about Lawyer Milloy.

BossChief 12-11-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7247651)
Don't forget about Lawyer Milloy.

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Flowers is 24

As I pointed out, we own his rights another 3 years unless a new CBA is agreed upon...Hali only has one more year and Bowe has 2...again, using the current structure.

There is no way Flowers is going anywhere for the next 6 years or more.

jd1020 12-11-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7247678)
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Flowers is 24

As I pointed out, we own his rights another 3 years unless a new CBA is agreed upon...Hali only has one more year and Bowe has 2...again, using the current structure.

There is no way Flowers is going anywhere for the next 6 years or more.

Hali is a FA after this season and Bowe has 1 more year on contract.

Titty Meat 12-11-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7247678)
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Flowers is 24

As I pointed out, we own his rights another 3 years unless a new CBA is agreed upon...Hali only has one more year and Bowe has 2...again, using the current structure.

There is no way Flowers is going anywhere for the next 6 years or more.

The Patriots tossed good Cb's to the curb all the time.

BossChief 12-11-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7247683)
Hali is a FA after this season and Bowe has 1 more year on contract.

Im not talking contract, Im talking rights to a player.

We can place tenders on either player of a 1st and 3rd or franchise either to keep them once their contract expires up until after their 6th year in the league.

That is why DJ is still a Chief and he didnt hit the open market after his rookie deal expired.

BossChief 12-11-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7247691)
The Patriots tossed good Cb's to the curb all the time.

Average corners are a dime a dozen to a defense with a good front 7...players like Ty Law and Brandon Flowers are treated differently because they change the way your team plays defense.

Besides Samuel, I dont really remember the letting any good corners walk.

The only way I see Flowers not being a Chief in three years is if we get at least a 1st and 3rd for him and we sign everyone else, which I would view as a mistake because players like Flowers are extremely rare and almost irreplaceable.

If we lose him in the next couple years, it sets this defense back a couple steps.

Quesadilla Joe 12-11-2010 09:13 PM

That is a pretty cheap contract. I was hoping Pioli would overspend like he did with Derrick Johnson.

Bowser 12-11-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7247850)
That is a pretty cheap contract. I was hoping Pioli would overspend like he did with Derrick Johnson.

Shit, both contracts are outstanding for this team. Players are happy with the guaranteed numbers, and we stillhave plenty of wiggle room under the alleged cap for years to come. Pioli knocked it out of the park.

the Talking Can 12-11-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7247850)
That is a pretty cheap contract. I was hoping Pioli would overspend like he did with Derrick Johnson.

that sloshing sound you hear, it's the pee your brain floats in


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