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milkman 01-11-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7343713)
He performed all year long. People finally gave him credit in week 16. They then proceeded to shit on him all over again right after that. That's just covering their asses and then bashing all over again.

No, he didn't "perform" all year.

He sucked ass for most of teh first half of the season.

I jumped on his bandwagon when I saw him actually doing things an NFL QB should be doing, i.e., using good mechanics when dropping back and making throws, stepping up in the pocket, making actual reads and calling audibles.

While others have returned to bashing him, which is their right, because he did regress, I remain on his bandwagon, because I saw those things for the first time in his career, and I believe that he finally has the building blocks to grow into a consistent NFL QB that you can win with.

OnTheWarpath15 01-11-2011 12:57 PM

1. QB

2. QB

3. QB


It'll never happen, though. We're stuck with Cassel for at least another year or two, maybe more.

Knowing that, I go NT, ILB, OLB, WR, in no particular order, with C and OT not far behind.

patteeu 01-11-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7346538)
That's a false dichotomy. Picking a QB with a #1 doesn't eliminate every other draft pick you could potentially make in either that year or future years, nor does it eliminate the possibility of adding depth via FA.

Using your most valuable pick on a guy who may not be any better than the guy you already have isn't a good way to address any of the glaring deficiencies that surround that guy.

patteeu 01-11-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7346544)
1. QB

2. QB

3. QB


LOL, and then there's this.

jd1020 01-11-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7346549)
Using your most valuable pick on a guy who may not be any better than the guy you already have isn't a good way to address any of the glaring deficiencies that surround that guy.

This draft is ****in staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked at WR. Are you going to draft a OL with the 1st pick? Nope. So what other position on offense besides OL and WR do the Chiefs need help with where using a 1st round pick on wouldn't be completely reeruned? QB.

OnTheWarpath15 01-11-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7346552)
LOL, and then there's this.

Well, we're not talking about the most important position on the team, are we?

No coincidence that 6 of the remaining 8 teams are QB'd by 1st round picks.

Or we could just sit around for another decade hoping that our 7th round career backup becomes an elite QB, just because Tom Brady did.

jd1020 01-11-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7346560)
Well, we're not talking about the most important position on the team, are we?

No coincidence that 6 of the remaining 8 teams are QB'd by 1st round picks.

Or we could just sit around for another decade hoping that our 7th round career backup becomes an elite QB, just because Tom Brady did.

Tom Brady did it his first year as a starter and here we are 3 years later praising a QB who didn't take a 16-0 team to the playoffs :deevee:

Saul Good 01-11-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7346559)
This draft is ****in staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked at WR. Are you going to draft a OL with the 1st pick? Nope. So what other position on offense besides OL and WR do the Chiefs need help with where using a 1st round pick on wouldn't be completely reeruned? QB.

When a draft is stacked at WR, you take a WR if you need a WR. We could get a WR that might go top 10 in other years because there are so many studs.

jd1020 01-11-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7346587)
When a draft is stacked at WR, you take a WR if you need a WR. We could get a WR that might go top 10 in other years because there are so many studs.

That wasnt my point... We can look else where with the 1st pick and get a WR in the 2nd/3rd and still end up with a solid WR to lineup opposite of Bowe. With so many people rising the draft charts WR's like Baldwin might not be looking at a 1st round selection anymore.

Halfcan 01-11-2011 01:20 PM

Head Coach
O cordinator
QB
3 good WR's

Saul Good 01-11-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7346595)
That wasnt my point... We can look else where with the 1st pick and get a WR in the 2nd/3rd and still end up with a solid WR to lineup opposite of Bowe. With so many people rising the draft charts WR's like Baldwin might not be looking at a 1st round selection anymore.

You have to look at the value of the slot. If there is a WR that would normally grade out as a top 10 pick, you take him if he falls to you. Getting a high first talent with a low first is a better deal than getting a high second talent with a late second. Compare the draft value charts if you want to see how big that difference is.

kcfanXIII 01-11-2011 01:32 PM

Top priority should be NT. That doesn't really mean we should draft one in the first round, but they need to have one targeted. A true nose tackle will elevate the whole defense. Vrabel is about to retire(if i had to guess) and Im not sold on belcher in pass coverage, so linebacker is a need, inside and out. There is a need at Wr and interior O-line. Need a center who doesn't have trouble maintaining weight down the stretch. A more physical center turns this run game up to 11. Less finesse and more smashmouth please. Also a playmaking wide receiver who isn't too small to play every down.

Address these needs and we could compete and defend the AFCW crown.

patteeu 01-11-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7346559)
This draft is ****in staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked at WR. Are you going to draft a OL with the 1st pick? Nope. So what other position on offense besides OL and WR do the Chiefs need help with where using a 1st round pick on wouldn't be completely reeruned? QB.

Why limit their first pick in the draft to offense? And then, why exclude 7/12ths of the possible positions that one might select on offense? If you have a more sensible question for me, I'd be glad to entertain it.

jd1020 01-11-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7346834)
Why limit their first pick in the draft to offense? And then, why exclude 7/12ths of the possible positions that one might select on offense? If you have a more sensible question for me, I'd be glad to entertain it.

I'm not limiting anything.... Holy reading comprehension.

jd1020 01-11-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7346646)
You have to look at the value of the slot. If there is a WR that would normally grade out as a top 10 pick, you take him if he falls to you. Getting a high first talent with a low first is a better deal than getting a high second talent with a late second. Compare the draft value charts if you want to see how big that difference is.

So you would take a player in the 1st that you could take later in the draft? Ya... Thats about the most reeruned thing I've ever heard of. That's something Josh McDaniels does.


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