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eazyb81 01-21-2011 07:09 AM

Really wish we had more draft picks this year. As others have said, it could be the last draft before a hard slotting system is put in place.

We pick #5 overall, but because of all the sandwich picks, I don't think our second pick is until #56.

duncan_idaho 01-21-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7372954)
Really wish we had more draft picks this year. As others have said, it could be the last draft before a hard slotting system is put in place.

We pick #5 overall, but because of all the sandwich picks, I don't think our second pick is until #56.

The one good thing about the Rays having SO many sandwich picks (I forgot if they're at 8 or 9 right now) is that they likely won't have the dollars to go after kids with signability issues in more than 3-4 of those spots.

Schaum did a 2011 mock draft over at Royals prospects. Pretty good info.

I like the Jackie Bradley Jr. pick. He or George Springer would seem to be good fits. I like Trevor Bauer, too. He reminds me a lot of Mike Leake, and I know the Royals FO was in love with Leake...

Am I the only person who is scared by Sonny Gray? His size and high-impact/effort delivery seem like warning signs. Also,

RockChalk 01-21-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7373102)
Am I the only person who is scared by Sonny Gray? His size and high-impact/effort delivery seem like warning signs. Also,

Hmmm...there's a pretty good pitcher out on the west coast that is 5'11'', 172. He also has an unorthodox delivery. Seems to be pretty solid.

Sonny is listed at 5'11'', 180

no love 01-21-2011 10:37 AM

Timmy Smoke thinks this guy will be awesome.

in all seriousness, I know nothing of Sonny, but if he is a legit talent, why not take him. Wasn't the same thing said of Lincecum? 2 Cy Youngs and a WS later, the guy is nails. So what if his arm gives out on him in 3 years, the Giants got everything they needed from him.

If Sonny has "the stuff" take him. Could he be any worse than Hochevar is turning out? (happily eat crow if he breaks out)

duncan_idaho 01-21-2011 11:08 AM

I think Lincecum is the exception to the rule, rather than a trend. There's a reason tiny pitchers are usually avoided. Just because one guy has found success doesn't change that.

Also, I think calling Tim Lincecum 5-11/180 is being REALLY generous. Dude is 5-8/155...:D

no love 01-21-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7373207)
I think Lincecum is the exception to the rule, rather than a trend. There's a reason tiny pitchers are usually avoided. Just because one guy has found success doesn't change that.

Also, I think calling Tim Lincecum 5-11/180 is being REALLY generous. Dude is 5-8/155...:D

absolutely agree on following the trend of "finding the tiny cy young winner." I don't know where he falls in line of best pitchers in the draft(or anyone), I've been too busy with chiefs news to follow high school and college baseball prospects. What I am sayin is, don't be afraid of a rare talent in favor of someone with a more solid delivery. That funky delivery that scares everyone away could be interesting out of the bullpen. Not that you want to draft your bullpen in the top 5... just saying, this team needs to have the cajones to take a flyer on a player that has "it." Maybe he does, maybe not... not for me to decide

no love 01-21-2011 11:45 AM

http://www.baseballrumormill.com/players/sonny-gray/

DeezNutz 01-21-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7373102)
The one good thing about the Rays having SO many sandwich picks (I forgot if they're at 8 or 9 right now) is that they likely won't have the dollars to go after kids with signability issues in more than 3-4 of those spots.

Schaum did a 2011 mock draft over at Royals prospects. Pretty good info.

I like the Jackie Bradley Jr. pick. He or George Springer would seem to be good fits. I like Trevor Bauer, too. He reminds me a lot of Mike Leake, and I know the Royals FO was in love with Leake...

Am I the only person who is scared by Sonny Gray? His size and high-impact/effort delivery seem like warning signs. Also,

Springer is the player whom I'm more interested in because of the power potential, but the club needs to turn over every stone with Starling. Dude has a very poor, natural-looking swing. We cannot miss on a local talent of this potential magnitude.

My hope beyond hope is that signability causes him to drop and we throw a ****ing Brinks truck at him in the second round.

duncan_idaho 01-21-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7373299)
Springer is the player whom I'm more interested in because of the power potential, but the club needs to turn over every stone with Starling. Dude has a very poor, natural-looking swing. We cannot miss on a local talent of this potential magnitude.

My hope beyond hope is that signability causes him to drop and we throw a ****ing Brinks truck at him in the second round.

Agreed on Starling. Hopefully, he keeps talking about how much he wants to play football at Nebraska, and he slips down to No. 56.

It would be REALLY tough to take a high school bat with the amount of high level college pitching in this draft. Cole, Purke, Bauer, Jungman and Gray all would have been the first college pitcher taken last year. Lot of high end ability there.

Springer is an intriguing player. Reminds me a lot of Ryan Braun.

DeezNutz 01-21-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7373299)
Springer is the player whom I'm more interested in because of the power potential, but the club needs to turn over every stone with Starling. Dude has a very poor, natural-looking swing. We cannot miss on a local talent of this potential magnitude.

My hope beyond hope is that signability causes him to drop and we throw a ****ing Brinks truck at him in the second round.

Yikes. What a nasty typo.

"pure, natural-looking swing." Not poor.

KChiefs1 01-21-2011 07:56 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb

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Cain's quick rise a case of talent, drive



By Dick Kaegel / MLB.com | 01/21/11


KANSAS CITY -- The odd thing about Royals outfielder Lorenzo Cain is that he didn't play on a baseball team until he was 16 years old.

Heck, now he's played six years on professional teams -- longer than he played on teams growing up. He didn't start until his sophomore year at Madison County (Fla.) High School.

"I just never got into it," Cain said Friday at the Royals FanFest. "It was just never my thing. In high school, I kind of picked it up and went with it."

Now, at age 24, Cain has a shot at the Royals' center-field job after being acquired from Milwaukee in the six-player trade that netted the Brewers pitcher Zack Greinke.

A friendly man with a big smile, Cain just didn't play much of anything as a kid in Madison, a little town about 50 miles from Tallahassee.

"My dad passed away when I was 4 so my mom pretty much raised me and my brother, so it was just us three growing up," he said. "She was a single mom, she worked two jobs at times so that's probably the main reason I didn't play sports. She didn't have really time to take me to practice or whatnot."

He and brother Delvin, who is six years older, had their chores to help out Patricia Cain.

"Somebody had to keep the house clean so that was me and my brother's job," he said.

When Cain got to the ninth grade, he tried out for the basketball team and got cut.

His mom thought football was too rough.

"She wouldn't let me play football so what was left? Baseball," he said.

He talked to a buddy who played high school ball -- Jeremy Haynes, now a pitcher in the Los Angeles Angels organization. He got encouragement and some practice-field help.

"We went out and hit a little early sometimes and did some defensive drills or whatever. So I ended up trying out for the team and made the JV team," Cain said.

After a year with the JV, as a junior he moved up to become a varsity bench-sitter.

He didn't care for that.

"I just wasn't content sitting on the bench. That wasn't for me," he said. "I went out and worked hard and made sure that didn't happen."

Cain played well enough that scouts followed him and letters from big league clubs came in the mail. At first, he found that "shocking" because, after all, he was just playing to have some fun. It dawned on him that this could be a way to making a living.

Drafted by the Brewers in the 17th round of 2004's First-Year Player Draft, he didn't sign and became a "draft and follow" while he played a season for Tallahassee Community College. Then he signed with the Brewers and began his pro career in 2005 with a bang; he led the Arizona Rookie League with 73 hits and batted .356 in 50 games.

Royals manager Ned Yost, then the Brewers' skipper, remembered seeing Cain and shortstop Alcides Escobar, who also came in the Greinke trade, in training camp a year or two later.

"The first thing that went through my mind when I saw them was that these kids are going to be All-Stars," Yost said.

Cain had natural athletic ability -- he could hit, steal bases and cover the outfield -- but after getting such a late start in the game, he had a lot of catching up to do.

"I had a lot of tweaking to do," he said, "but I was able to pick it up quick and kind of learn on the fly. I'm the kind of guy, you throw me out there and I just try to get it done."

Not playing as a kid, he wasn't starstruck by any big leaguers.

"But when I started playing baseball, one guy that was my role model was Torii Hunter," he said. "I tried to model my game after him."

Coming back from leg injuries last season, the right-handed batter ripped off a .317 average combined at the Double-A and Triple-A levels and was promoted to the Brewers. In 43 games, he batted .306, had 13 RBIs and swiped seven bases in eight tries.

"I'm still learning," he said. "I'll take my bumps and bruises, but, at the same time, I feel like I can go out there and hold my own."

Cain will go to Spring Training next month with Melky Cabrera heading the center-field list and with Mitch Maier, Jarrod Dyson and Gregor Blanco also in the picture -- a lot of competition.

The Royals have outfitted Cain with uniform No. 6, formerly worn by their legendary center fielder, Willie Wilson. As the FanFest got under way, they posed together with the uniform.

"He was telling me to live up to it," Cain said.
Now that would be something.

Dick Kaegel is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

KChiefs1 01-21-2011 08:36 PM

Francoeur has Met fans in an uproar:

http://www.metsblog.com/2011/01/21/f...eld-is-a-joke/

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I guess swinging at pitches that bounce on the ground first or swinging at pitches that my 3 year old knows not to swing at is Citi Field's fault...just an example of not being accountable for playing like garbage....now I guarantee that this guy was a problem in the clubhouse...just keep your mouth shut Jeff, you are playing on the Kansas City Royals...Why???? Because no one has confidence in you..so now you play on a team that is a damn joke....karma
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Memo to Francoeur,
Want to see a "Joke"? Look in the mirror.
Want to read about a joke, look at your diminishing numbers since you came to the majors.
Want to know what kind of a career arc you're on? You went from Atl, to NYC, to Texas (finally a winner) and now you're in baseball's Siberia....yeah, good luck with that.

KChiefs1 01-21-2011 08:57 PM

http://huskerextra.com/sports/baseba...4eabf35c0.html

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Alex Gordon hopes he's in store for a healthy season


By CURT McKEEVER / Lincoln Journal Star

OMAHA -- If you've followed Alex Gordon's rapid rise to the Kansas City Royals and then roller coaster of a career, you would understand why the former Nebraska All-American could have camped out all day at Children's Hospital and Medical Center during the Royals' annual goodwill caravan Thursday.

Among the patients Gordon visited before he and teammates Luke Hochevar and Mitch Maier, and Royals Hall of Famers John Mayberry and Frank White headed to mingle with fans at the Ultimate Baseball Academy were a couple of 12-year-old girls.

A couple of 12-year-old girls who didn't know that much about baseball … "which was kind of nice," Gordon said with a grin.

They might have been the only ones the 26-year-old ran into all day who didn't ask how he feels about what is bound to be a put-up-or-shut-up season.

Indeed, the past two years have been tough for the No. 2 pick of the 2005 draft, who last week agreed to a one-year contract worth $1.4 million.

In 2009, Gordon barely got started before needing extensive surgery on his right hip, an injury that limited him to 49 games and a .232 batting average with Kansas City.

Last year, he broke his right thumb in spring training, didn't get back in the lineup until mid-April and, after hitting .194, was sent down to Triple-A Omaha in May.

At the same time, the Royals decided to convert him from playing third base to the outfield, and though the left-handed-hitting Gordon tore up Triple-A pitching, when he returned to Kansas City he struggled enough to wind up with a .215 average in 74 games.

Determined to put those trying times behind him, Gordon created a minor stir when, during a pregame batting session in September, he told a Kansas City (Mo.) Star beat writer that he was going to dominate in 2011.

Asked about that Thursday, Gordon said he thought his comment made sense.

"What did you want me to do? Say I'm going to do OK?" he said. "I think I'm going to do a lot better than the last couple years."

If he can stay healthy, he should have ample opportunity. In November, Kansas City traded left fielder David DeJesus to Oakland. That move came after the Royals had traded two other 2010 outfield starters, Scott Podsednik and Jose Guillen, in July and August.

White -- who managed Gordon at Double-A Wichita in 2006 when he was named Baseball America's Minor League Player of the Year -- saw enough signs after Gordon returned to Kansas City last year to believe 2011 could be a coming-out year for the Lincoln native.

White said he believed in 2006 that Gordon had all the tools to become a solid major-league third baseman. But when his progress stalled, "He just didn't seem confident, offensively and at third base," White said Thursday. "When he was down here playing outfield, a lot of his natural abilities came out, and I think it translated to his offense (when he got called back to Kansas City)."

Gordon spends his offseasons in K.C., and said this one has been different in that instead of focusing on infield work, he's working on his speed work and arm strength.

And then there's the deal about sharing those middle-of-the-night duties with his wife caring for their first child, 4-month-old son Max.

"I'm definitely not getting as much sleep," Gordon said.

At least it's not from stress with his job.

"When I signed my contract, I don't think my mind-set changed," said Gordon, noting that it was the Royals, not he, who had options regarding his career. "You're in the big leagues. There's young kids nipping at your heels, so you've got to produce."

gblowfish 01-21-2011 09:07 PM

Wake me up after we've lost 110 games.

DeezNutz 01-21-2011 09:13 PM

Alex Gordon: the poster child for why many fans don't believe.

Talk all you want about depth, overwhelming numbers, etc. The fact remains, '06 Gordon would be the #1 prospect in the system. Yeah, there might be some banter about Myers and Hosmer, but Gordon would be #1.

And if he can fail, anyone can fail. And thus the understandable skepticism.

Certainly it's going to work this time, right? Right?


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