lose/lose situation

If we keep him and he won't allow a real OC to come on board then it's no telling how long it will be before he grows up and figures out how to run things. If ever.

If we fire him then it's another transitional period and another couple of steps backward.


it's a messed up situation

Let's take that away.

Let's say the Seahawks won.

His coordinators (his coaching tree) still went on to be HC's.

They flamed out. Agreed.

Dom Capers held on too long to Kerry Collins. Dick Lebeau went tits-up with the Bengals. Chan Gailey couldn't get the Cowboys on track.

A decade later they're all looking a helluva' lot better in retrospect.

Gailey is the only one not to win a SB and Dick is in the HOF AS AN ACTIVE COACH.

THAT IS COACHING.

We might have that in our DC. He's the only one I truly believe hasn't pushed his chips in...

Retread coaches who won Super Bowls:

Weeb Ewbank
Don Shula
Mike Shanahan
Dick Vermeil
Jon Gruden
Bill Belichick
Tony Dungy
Tom Coughlin

Eight retread coaches out of 30 Super Bowl winners accounted for 12 Super Bowl wins. Those odds aren't horrible.

I kinda want to add Marv Levy to that list, too, because they only lost 4 Super Bowls because of extremely long odds.

It's a real messed up situation. I agree w/ you Laz. I wouldn't really want to see another transitional period going on if the Chiefs ever decided to fire him. Bring a new coach in, and pretty much this whole entire staff is gone. There are some coaches on this staff that are worthy of keeping.

My point is, new coach=new coaching staff=installment of a new system=new players.

Chiefs already have a core. Especially on defense. I wouldn't want to see that core disrupted. Id like to see them hire within. I think Romeo would be ideal. I know a lot of people would oppose this, but, at least he could keep his defensive system here and maintain the same players. And at least those players wouldn't have to learn a new scheme. Bring in a well established QB like Peyton(if available/healthy) and let him bring his own offensive system in here. The defensive guy can do his own thing and the offensive guy can also do his own thing.

This is a perfect idea. No conflicts. Its a perfect situation for the Chiefs! They get that QB to get them over that hump and help them compete. And at the same time, they have an offensive mastermind at the helm. No big heads clashing at each other. One guy specializes in one area, the other guy specializes in another area. And both Manning & Romeo are excellent tactitions.

Of course. We need the third clown to form the triumvirate.

The new coach is not going to be dumb enough to dump talented players.

Herm might actually get to a super bowl as HC of the Steelers
It's the organization & of course they would know better than to try

Herm wouldn't be promoted above scout for the Steelers...

LMAO

Even if he doesn't, the players will probably have to learn a different scheme. I'm content with this current defense and the scheme they have in place. Imo, you get a new coaching staff, transition is most likely to happen one way or another. The only thing I'm wondering is, are the players on defense versatile when it comes to playing in different schemes.

It's not like we're going to be switching to the 4-3.

We have enough talent on D that we're going to be fine. It's not like this is the #1 or even a top 10 D at the moment.

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It will not be a mistake when Pioli fires Haley. Not because he isn't a good coach. Because he is a petulant child who is a control freak.

The rule is that no coach in NFL history has WON a superbowl with two different teams.

No one.

They have gone and lost, then won with another team.

They have won, and then gone and lost.

No one has won, gone, and won again.

Cowher=historically bad decision for a team that wants a title.

Who's to say Pioli isn't the control freak & goes out & hires a Norv jr