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Extra Point 12-16-2011 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8208412)
I'd trade Cassel + Richardson plus out 6th rounder for their 1st this year and 3rd next year.
Reaction: "LMAO," followed by "ROFL."

Mr. Laz 12-16-2011 04:33 PM
that win against Chicago just killed us ... we should be in the running to draft 4th not 10th


Team W-L Opp W-L %
01 Indy 0-13 .548
02 Minnesota 2-11 .567
03 St. Louis 2-11 .582
04 Washington 4-9 .457
05 Jacksonville 4-9 .505
06 Carolina 4-9 .505
07 Dolphins 4-9 .524
08 Cleveland 4-9 .529
09 Tampa Bay 4-9 .538
10 Philadelphia 5-8 .490
11 Buffalo 5-8 .514
12 Chiefs 5-8 .524

Chiefnj2 12-16-2011 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8208928)
Griffin is listed at 6'2" 210lbs

He's bigger than Vick and Brees unless the numbers are fudged.

It would be nice if he was 2 inches taller but it shouldn't be a deal breaker. What's more of a concern is whether he can fit into more than one type of offensive scheme. He's sort of a chuck and duck type guy now. imo.

run
run,
go deep
I don't think his height is fudged, he was on Letterman and looked the same size as Dave

whoman69 12-16-2011 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 8209130)
Pioli ain't trading up, he will bring in McDaniels to save face with his Cassel debacle trade plain and simple. What coach would want to come here being told make Cassel successful except for McDaniels.

We're trading down if anything.
repost

whoman69 12-16-2011 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8209188)
Drafting is not the same as developing. The Chiefs went from 1987-2007 without starting a QB they had drafted. BTW, that QB in 1987 only threw one pass, Doug Hudson. Mike Elkins threw one pass. Matt Blundin had 9 attempts and was given up on after 2 seasons. Steve Matthews had 48 attempts all with other franchises. Steve Stensrom didn't even make the roster though he was in the league 4 years after with over 300 attempts. James Kilian didn't make the roster, Pat Barnes didn't make the roster.

The Chiefs didn't even draft a QB from 1998 until 2005.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8209200)
Huh?
I know reading is hard for you, but try to keep up.

Titty Meat 12-16-2011 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8209648)
I know reading is hard for you, but try to keep up.
No you ****ing dipshit it really isn't but when you say drafting is different than developing a quarterback I say you have the same amount of brain power as Terri Schaivo.

Chief Roundup 12-16-2011 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8208529)
I bet with the rookie pay slotting, the old trade chart goes out the window and it becomes very expensive to move up. Teams didn't used to want to pick in the top 5 because of the contract size. Now you can get an elite player for a low price, so they are really going to want a team to make it worthwhile to trade down.
This.

Chief Roundup 12-16-2011 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8208619)
Bowe and our 3rd RD to the ram's for the #2 pick

Rams#2 pick + our #12(maybe higher) pick to the Colts for the #1 pick

Draft Luck

Baldwin and Breaston our starting WR's next year. Maybe sign a veteran FA WR and/or draft another WR.
Bowe and our 3rd will never get the 2cd overall.

Everybody has said it will take at least 3 1st round picks to get there so I don't see your theory for Luck working either.

Chief Roundup 12-16-2011 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8208655)
No way.
Dude you have lost your mind. It would take a high pick to replace what Dorsey brings to the D right now.

Chief Roundup 12-16-2011 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8208681)
2nd round QB aren't worth shit.
Drew Brees would argue that.

Okie_Apparition 12-16-2011 10:49 PM
Did RGIIIs draft stock just jump from middland to top in the past 3-4 months
those usually scream bust. PErfect for the Rat

OnTheWarpath15 12-17-2011 10:07 AM
How the hell did I miss this thread?

Anyway, the correct answer should be, "whatever it takes."

Here are the problems:

No one expects Pioli to draft a 1st round QB.

If he wanted a 1st round QB, does anyone here believe he's capable of properly evaluating the position and choosing the right one?

Here's to another year (or more) of bitching about Cassel, fellas.

Chiefnj2 12-17-2011 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8209977)
Did RGIIIs draft stock just jump from middland to top in the past 3-4 months
those usually scream bust. PErfect for the Rat
That's what happened to Newton last year.

tecumseh 12-17-2011 11:17 AM
Pioli is NOT going to trade up. He's commited to Cassel for at least another year.
If anything, replace Richardson , upgrade O-line. Draft some quality depth in the secondary. Perhaps a weak schedule next season, build some confidence.

Brock 12-17-2011 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tecumseh (Post 8210868)
Pioli is NOT going to trade up. He's commited to Cassel for at least another year.
Good luck selling Crennel/Cassel to the fanbase next year.


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