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thomas 06-19-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8688051)
only up to 22 on the countdown so far

30. Tim Tebow
29. Blaine Gabbert
28. Christian Ponder
27. Matt Flynn
26. Matt Moore
25. Kevin Kolb
24. Ryan Fitzpatrick
23. Mark Sanchez
22. Matt Cassel
21.
20.
19.

Well the AFC East isn't exactly burning it up is it...ROFL

L.A. Chieffan 06-19-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8689095)
He lit it up against Indy though in spite of all that. Just like his 27 and 7 year, he lit it up against the worst teams in the league. When he played against good teams he played like crap and his defenders made excuses for him.

So you're saying he should SUCK against crappy teams.

Come from the dark side, hate leads to suffering.

tredadda 06-19-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8689104)
So you're saying he should SUCK against crappy teams.

Come from the dark side, hate leads to suffering.

Nope, but if he is good as you claim he should play well against bad and good teams. Since you have to defend and make excuses for him says alot. No hate, just don't think he is a capable starting QB.

L.A. Chieffan 06-19-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8689110)
Nope, but if he is good as you claim he should play well against bad and good teams. Since you have to defend and make excuses for him says alot. No hate, just don't think he is a capable starting QB.

All your doing is making excuses to bash him.

tredadda 06-19-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8689121)
All your doing is making excuses to bash him.

ROFL Sure

Dallas Chief 06-19-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8688344)
if i were buying season tickets i'd be on Pioli's ass to get a legit QB.

That's actually why I gave mine up. I am done throwing away the $$$ on this team until it is not the same ole "it's a process, right 53" BS. How about you sign and play the best 53??? Novel concept huh?

RealSNR 06-19-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8689064)
Chan Gailey, my bad.

Damon Huard w/ Solari > Matt Cassel w/ Chan Gailey

Ace Gunner 06-19-2012 06:05 PM

#31 = Cassel
#32 = Falko

whoman69 06-19-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8689258)
#31 = Cassel
#32 = Falko

Who the hell is Falko?

BigMeatballDave 06-19-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8689277)
Who the hell is Falko?

Word play?

Palko + Fail

:shrug:

mcaj22 06-19-2012 07:40 PM

has BW's take been posted on it yet?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...l-22nd-best-qb


I think he agrees with most of us about the Chiefs this year. (Great positional talent that will sink or swim with a ****ing pisshole below average QB that needs a lot of design help to have a punchers chance)

also laughed at Jaw's actual breakdown:

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"Cassel is at his best in a managed offense that features run personnel, run formations and the play-action pass game. Play-action primarily gives the quarterback 'either-or' defined reads. Cassel is very good in that scenario. ... Cassel throws the ball better to the inside -- digs, hooks and throws like that -- than he does to the outside. That’s the way it is with quarterbacks with limited arm strength."

“In addition, the deep throws often come on first down. Play-action is almost always featured. As is six- or seven-man pass-protection schemes."
aka our QB is really bad.

SAUTO 06-19-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8688507)
hey TK, i changed the text on my sig to make it more fitting till Castle leaves.
http://i46.tinypic.com/20uz4wo.png

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Easy 6 06-19-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8689012)
"After doing tape study on Matt Cassel, ESPN's Ron Jaworski described him as a "function of the team around him" and a quarterback who struggles to make throws outside the numbers due to "limited arm strength."
"Cassel is at his best in a managed offense that features run personnel, run formations, and the play-action pass game," Jaws said. "Play action primarily gives the quarterback either-or defined reads. Cassel is very good in that scenario. ... Cassel throws the ball better to the inside -- digs, hooks, and throws like that -- than he does to the outside. That's the way it is for quarterbacks with limited arm strength. You give Matt Cassel a solid run game, a good offensive line, room in the pocket to deliver the football comfortably, and he can be a very efficient NFL starter. That's what he is. He's a function of the team around him, and he needs those pieces in place working effectively."

Jaws knows his quarterbacks, thats spot on.

If everyone else around him is a baller he'll usually win more regular season games than he loses... where the weaknesses rear their ugly heads is the postseason, a top playoff D that has the players to atleast partially stymie the run game without going all in to do it, have it made against him.

All they have to do is scheme to stop those digs, hooks & medium crossing patterns, hardly worrying about anything outside the numbers... i honestly see us winning one playoff game this year based on the overall strength of team & Cassel maxing out, but after that all bets are off... the best D's can shut him down.

BoneKrusher 06-19-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8689511)
Pussy.
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yeah i'll take some.ROFL

BoneKrusher 06-19-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8688884)
This list is bullshit, Cassell should be in the top ten or twelve.

yeah, top ten worst starting QB's of the decade.


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