If you need three hours of drinking beforehand to enjoy a baseball game, maybe you're not really much of a baseball fan.

Which is exactly why I don't go to the park.

Nicely played, sir.

Not at all. If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to go somewhere near the stadium to have a decent meal or grab a drink.

If I'm entertaining someone for business, the Royals game doesn't even enter the discussion. I go to games in Saint Louis for "business" meetings when I'm there because there is plenty to do before and after the game. I actually spend my money in the surrounding area. Imagine that.

What time does Arrowhead open it's lot for Sunday night games? Must not be a lot of actual football fans there tailgating.

So we want to bring people who aren't even focused on the game but rather some business dealings?

Sorry, I go to games for the games. I don't need the experience watered down by a bunch of suits talking about their next merger or litigation.

I guess I can expect to see a surge in stadiums being built in ghost towns, then. You just can't convince anyone to build stadiums in vibrant urban areas.

If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to tailgate in the parking lot and grill my food and have a few drinks. The current stadium provides that wonderfully.

I have no doubt that you're a good baseball fan. I've been poking you with a stick because you want everyone here to want the thing that would make Saul World a happier place.

I like the stadium where it is, because it's close to where I live, it's convenient, it's easy to park, it's easy to get out, and historically, these stadiums are starting to climb the longevity ladder. Someday we may see the "K" in the same light as Wrigley or Fenway. Not saying that will happen, but you never know.

Of course, people want different things from their game experience. Kauffman has lots of bars for the partiers, stuff to distract the kids, the HOF for the history buffs. Me, I care most about the product on the field, which sadly has been missing from the forefront of the conversation.

You want a downtown party, other people want a family place or want to tailgate. To each his own. We should bitch less about the stadium, and more about what's happening on the field. Jackson County spent the money to build a world class venue. The Glass Family should pony up so the product matches the packaging.

That's a ridiculous line of thinking.

advocates designing stadiums around hardcore baseball fans



supports a nine figure renovation of the stadium that added bars, concession stands, luxury boxes, a playground, and an enormous video board

If there's one thing people in Kansas City love, it's a huge parking lot.

I do not see how the two are mutually exclusive. We are not allowed to bring the party from the lot into the stadium, so might as well have a party waiting inside for us.

I do not see why those options have to be only for the suit types. That is just elitist thinking.

It does for me.

And it apparently was for 2 million + fans every year when they were actually putting a winning product on the field.

Which, by the way, was the era that you decided to pull your photo from. You could at least try to use one from when we switched to blue seats and real grass at The K.

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I haven't read back all that far, but is someone complaining about the location of the stadiums? I think it's good that it's not downtown. Plenty of room for parking and tailgating. Everyone in the area is pretty much there for the game. I go to games to tailgate and watch games. Being from out of town, I love that it's easy to get into and out of, and that it's near the highway. I'm not sure how you couldn't like the setup. If you're coming from work, grab a 6 (or 12) pack of beer and head for the parking lot. Need food? Make friends with a neighbor who's grilling. I don't know about baseball games, but I know that no one goes hungry during football season.