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The Franchise 09-04-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877572)
It's not funny. You can't even get your pic right. You suck ass.

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mcaj22 09-04-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877577)
If I could post video, I would but I don't have enough posts yet.

a video of what

Brandon Siler being terrible. Because that's what he is. A special teams role player, nothing more nothing less. He can step in a pinch but if you are relying on him for an entire season to stop the run it will be like the Dick Vermeil Chiefs defense all over again.

Ming the Merciless 09-04-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8877557)
You're a troupe of DJ ball sucking homers is what you are Stanzi pants.

Yes...were 'sucking' the balls of one of the most under rated players in the NFL...

Dude gets no props, hardly at all for how much of a bad ass he is....and then has to suffer idiots like you saying Siler is better than him at tackling...

What is your evidence? Let's see some game tape..I want to see the inner workings of your shit for brain mind break this down in detail....

Please, wise one, show us the flaws in DJ's tackling technique...

I'm sure you have a lot of experience being tackled at gay strip clubs for being too rowdy.

mcaj22 09-04-2012 05:26 PM

was this the video BlackBob?

Brandon Siler getting straight owned but I'll give you credit still makes the stop. Then the very next play gets absolutely blown the **** up as Ray Rice runs untouched. Yeah great tackling. It's not great tackling if the guy get's washed out of more ****ing plays than New Jersey beaches.

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Saccopoo 09-04-2012 05:27 PM

Damn, two threads with pistol whipping going on...

RealSNR 09-04-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8877595)
I'm sure you have a lot of experience being tackled at gay strip clubs for being too rowdy.

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Hammock Parties 09-04-2012 05:33 PM

BlackBob is getting owned hard now. We just spread eagled him over a pinball machine and raped him like Jodie Foster in The Accused.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8877544)
Pawnmower, Clay, Pestilence, Talking Can, and I are like a troupe of super heroes defending Chiefs Planet from evil ****s like Black Boob.

I STILL BELIEVE IN HEROES

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Brock 09-04-2012 05:36 PM

LOL. Bob's anus is a size 12 right now.

Ming the Merciless 09-04-2012 05:37 PM

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philfree 09-04-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8877575)
So...who missed practice today?
Posted via Mobile Device

That's what I was wondering.

Black Bob 09-04-2012 05:55 PM

Oldies but goodies

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8174492)
DJ is having a great year, but there is no more meaningless stat in football than "number of tackles" Especially for a middle LB. Of course these guys rack up huge numbers of tackles.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post8174492

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8092934)
tackles are a bullshit stat anyways.

A lot of the time, they numbers are totally made up.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post8092934

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7771886)
What is it with some of you and tackle stats?

Bernard Pollard led this team in tackles one year.

Making 11 tackles 5-7 yards downfield means shit.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post7771886

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7750900)
Tackles are your barometer?

Get the **** out of here.

Keep reading the stat sheet and act like you have a freaking clue about the way he played last year. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...es#post7750900

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6775160)
Why do fans say this?

Great players can produce on any defensive scheme. Johnson isn't, and never has been, a great player. I laughed at the bitches who said last year that this coaching staff was stupid because they had their "best linebacker" sitting on the bench. He's got million dollar ability and a 10 cent head. The guy just isn't football smart. I hope he does put it together but I don't expect it. After this many years if he doesn't "get it" he just doesn't get it. He's never going to be what he was hyped coming out of college. One of those cases where all of the negatives about a guy coming out were spot on. Runs around blocks, isn't a great tackler, free lances too much, etc.http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/newre...eply&p=6775160

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6777226)
yep, but he also has the lack of focus and discipline to leave his assignment which results in giving up huge plays ... especially in the running game.


gets the big play and gives up the big play


that's why they pulled him from the starting lineup and put him in there on passing downs because it still gives DJ the chance to make the big play but keeps him from screwing up our run defense.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6777744)
Hey, Mays and Williams may get blown up, but at least they get their bodies in the hole. DJ can't even find the hole to get blown up.


Black Bob 09-04-2012 05:58 PM

The Tackle

By Matt Shervington on June 23, 2011

The tackle is perhaps the most annoying statistic in football. Not because it isn’t useful but because it is so open to interpretation. For this reason, although the tackle is tracked by the NFL and its various teams, it is not considered an official statistic.

Despite the fact that the tackle isn’t official fans often cite the tackle as a premier method to interpret how good 4-3 linebackers or strong safeties are. If a player has a high tackle total he is usually regarded as a “sideline-to-sideline” player.

Unfortunately, despite the forthcoming rambling, the tackle is probably a good indicator of these player’s abilities. The primary issue, however, is that a tackle as a simple number attributes the same value to every single tackle a player makes. Attributing the same value to a tackle that prevents a first down on third and three to a tackle that comes after a 25-yard run isn’t very fair.

However, our friends at Football Outsiders have long concocted an excellent way to objectively view the tackle to determine which ones are “better” than others.

Football Outsiders have given us the metrics of “Stops”, “Defeats”, “Yards per Play” and “Stop Rate”

The “Stop” is defined as a play in which a defensive player prevents the offense from gaining 45 percent of needed yards on first down, 60 percent on second down and 100 percent of the needed yards on third and fourth down. While passes defensed, interceptions and forced fumbles are included in this metric the overall numbers still remain reminiscent of tackles.

The “Defeat” is defined as a play by a defender that prevents the offense from earning a first down on third or fourth down. Additionally a defeat can be defined as a play behind the line of scrimmage or a forced turnover.

The “Yards per Play” metric is defined as the average distance at which a defender makes a tackle, forced fumble, interception or stuff. Football Outsiders has even done the fans the convenience of separating yards per play against the run and yards per play against the pass as well as when the two are combined.

Finally, the “Stop Rate” metric delivers the percentage of tackles, stuffs, sacks, forced fumbles and interceptions that qualified as a stop out of their total plays.

Using the stop metric alongside the defeat metric is a good way to further elaborate on tackles. Together they can tell you how many of the player’s tackles weren’t simply “garbage” or “cleanup” tackles. This does not mean that all tackles that weren’t stops or defeats were meaningless but these metrics do give a better look into when and where tackles occurred when combined with the yards per play metric.

Who should be seen as the superior player?

A guy who had 100 tackles with an average yards per play of 3.5 with 66 stops and 20 defeats or a guy who had 130 tackles but an average yards per play of 6.0 with 62 stops and 8 defeats?

The tackle totals tell you that the latter player is superior but are his 30 extra tackles really worth the 2.5 extra yards he gives up per play?

Now obviously other factors must be placed into context such as the system that a guy plays in or where on the field the tackles were made despite distance. If you want to further do some research on a player and see if they are truly a “sideline-to-sideline” tackle you can also check out their player splits page on Sports Illustrated.

For all of the aforementioned metrics you can search Football Outsiders with the player’s name to find their respective player page.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...et-them/page/2

Saccopoo 09-04-2012 05:58 PM

Black Bob isn't down for the count just yet.

Look at that sonsabitch throwing haymakers out of left field.

Black Bob 09-04-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8877711)
Black Bob isn't down for the count just yet.

Look at that sonsabitch throwing haymakers out of left field.

I haven't even started.:evil:


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