cheap or not, this has been an absolute ****ing failure. like Whitlock said, Cassel was the original sin. ONce he signed that qb to a contract it was all bad from there. Its like Cassel would be a back up to not even on a NFL roster if it wasnt for Pioli.

Also, 4 ****ing draft picks and not 1 person in them 4 drafts is an difference maker on the FIELD. WHen you draft 3-5-11 you have to ****ing get some kind of production and we relaly havent. Berry was almost there, but he's not right now.

How many super bowls do the top 5 paid QB's have?

How many do the bottom 5 have?

There's your correlation ****stick...

With all due respect, dont you think you're being a bit stubborn here?

DJ
Hali
Charles
Flowers

All of them got competitive guaranteed money if you are being fair in your assessment of "competitive".

How can anyone call them cheap without knowing what Bowes actual demands are?

I mean, I laid the groundwork for the best possible educated guess on what it could be (45-50) and that's DOUBLE what you speculated to earlier.

Is Clark cheap if he doesn't DOUBLE what YOU saw as a reasonable guess?

pioli says a lot of stupid shit

How much is Matt due next year? Like 9 million?

If Scott and Matt are both back next season, and Matt isn't asked to take a pay cut, we needs to stage a walkout or something.

If Matt is playing for $10 I would still want the fans to do it.

7.5 in 2013
9 in 2014

He should be forced to take a paycut down to like 2.5 million max and we shouldn't lose anybody except him if he doesn't agree.

I wonder if NE would want him back for Mallett...if we threw in sweeteners.

Like aspartame?

FYP

Big ****ing deal.

How many superstar Baltimore Ravens have been allowed to walk in their prime? Pittsburgh Steelers? NY Giants?

Four guys don't make a team.

You need to get over this shit.

This shit is awful, atleast the Cleveland Browns have a new owner that will likely clean house after they go 3-13, I have a feeling it will be like this for the next couple of seasons

Let's not be so quick to label Brandon Carr a "superstar", either. He is a very very solid second corner but he doesn't get a lot of picks or cause a lot of fumbles and he isn't "special" in run support, either. He is a very very solid #2 cover corner...NOT a "superstar".

All of those teams have let guys walk. It's part of the NFL...The Texans had to let Mario Williams walk and they cut Winston as well as a couple others.

Giants:
Manningham
Ross
Smith
They have been playing similar games with Osi for quite some time

Ravens
Grubbs
Johnson
A bunch of quality players other than those, too. 2 good safeties and Cory Redding.

Steelers are doing with Wallace what we are with Bowe and the two players have the same agent...the same agent Branden Albert USED to have before he fired him...and let's not act as if they don't let players walk because they do.
They offer a fair deal and don't overpay, that's the Rooney way. If the player chooses to walk, so be it...that's what's happening with Wallace right now.

Those teams all have talent in those areas because they have drafted well or brought in the proper FA acquisitions, we didn't.

We have no depth at CB, None.

Routt is an adequate replacement and the move frees up 3.5 million to use elsewhere (maybe ends up going to either Albert or Bowe) and gives us a third round pick as well.

We do have depth at corner...it's just hurt (Brown fared well against Fitzgerald in ps prior to getting hurt) or stupidly moved to another position (Daniels)

And that's what it comes down to. Look, I'm fine with cutting ties with Carr, but ****, don't allow our secondary to lie in shambles for the following season.

I do not know if Clark is cheap, but he and Pioli seem to be incredibly inept at identifying talent, which explains the positions of Pioli, Cassel, Haley, Crennel, and the problems which currently plague the entirety of the team.

I may be nineteen years old, but watching this team makes me feel like a crusty and weathered old man.