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Brock 10-17-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024024)
Weeden: 68.1
Cassel: 66.2

How ridiculous is that.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9024019)
He can do things that Cassel could only dream of, but he's super inconsistent. I also think he's on the bubble in Tampa Bay. If he doesn't close this season out strong, his window for being a starter in the NFL will be much smaller. Despite his youth and potential.

And you wouldn't take him over Cassel?

Cassel is consistent.....at being ****ing shitty.

Micjones 10-17-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9024025)
Seriously?

Hell, I'd take TJ Yates over Cassel in a ****ing heartbeat, not to mention about five others from that list.

I'd take you over Cassel, but that hardly means you're a viable alternative.

I'm not a Pioli apologist, but this long tenured idea that he's had a shit ton of good alternatives to Cassel just isn't true.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9024031)
How ridiculous is that.

Out of 33 QBs in the NFL.....Matt Cassel is 33rd in QB rating.

Micjones 10-17-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9024032)
And you wouldn't take him over Cassel?

Cassel is consistent.....at being ****ing shitty.

That's the wrong question.
The right question is, "Is Josh Freeman significantly better than Cassel?"
Concerning his skillset? Absolutely. Overall? I think the difference is negligible at best.

Easy 6 10-17-2012 10:08 AM

At this point i'd jizz for Freeman, get him a top shelf qb coach & he's Roethlisberger Jr.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9024034)
I'd take you over Cassel, but that hardly means you're a viable alternative.

I'm not a Pioli apologist, but this long tenured idea that he's had a shit ton of good alternatives to Cassel just isn't true.

No....it's not. I just gave you a list of QBs that could do more with this offense than Cassel. The Texans basically ran the same gameplan that we ran against the Ravens in the playoffs with Yates at QB.....and they ****ing won. Freeman with some better coaching and weapons may fully realize his potential.

FFS.....I'd take goddamn Brandon Weeden over Cassel right now.

beach tribe 10-17-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9023807)
As do I. I just think there's more to being a good football team than the roster. You can have a vastly improved roster and still stink.
Especially when you haven't made good decisions at key spots like QB and HC.
And yes, Pioli's at fault for that.

Yup. It's silly to even suggest that the talent on the roster is as bad as it was 4 years ago. The team just has absolutely ZERO leadership. I think a quality HC and QB would make this team a completely different animal. I've seen it first hand with what is going on with Miami right now. This team here was DEAD. Completely DEAD. A change at HC and a young up and coming QB has this team thinking playoffs, and for a good reason. The same thing would happen here. Actually to an even greater extent I believe.

Crennel is pulling off one of the worst HCing jobs any of us has ever seen.
The fact that the players knew that Haley would destroy them when they came off of the field and when watching film and would also not hesitate to put ANY player (other than Cassel I guess) on the ****ing bench the way he did DJ kept players on their toes. Haley would rip their faces off, and even had Cassel's bitch ass fired up and fighting with him on the sidelines.

When Haley got fired and Crennel took over the players went completely soft the way they were for Herm. Our next coach needs to be a complete Tom Coughlin like ass hole. They need to fear him, and they need to HATE him the way Michael Strahan hated Coughlin. We are going to have to have that with this group of guys.

I'm pretty sure the players have realized what the people here have known for a while. That we are not winning shit with these QBs.
A QB who the other players believe in, and a coach that they fear will have this team playing with fire, and will have them winning IMO. Just my 2cents

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:09 AM

Blaine Gabbert has a higher QB rating than Cassel.

Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 10:09 AM

Pioli lied to us again.

There's no way Romeo Crennel would bench Steve Breaston for a couple of maggots like Baldween and McBuster.

DTLB58 10-17-2012 10:09 AM

Well, that was a waste of time.

They should both be fired!

qabbaan 10-17-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9023902)
Why do people think him doing all these interviews means he is staying?

He is doing interviews because the team is in turmoil, and it is public.

You can't infer anything about his job status, good or bad, from this.

Well, I think you can. The guy hates the media and doesn't ever go out of the way to do interviews. The fact that they are in the media doing damage control is a change for the

the Talking Can 10-17-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9024034)
I'd take you over Cassel, but that hardly means you're a viable alternative.

I'm not a Pioli apologist, but this long tenured idea that he's had a shit ton of good alternatives to Cassel just isn't true.

yes, it is

the idea that the only thing pioli could do in 4 years is acquire Matt Cassel is just dumb

and we sure as hell didn't need to play someone $5 mill a year if 'there was nothing else to do"...could have used a computer

htismaqe 10-17-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodchuck (Post 9023970)
I don't think he is lying about any of that. I'm not sure why people think he makes those kind of decisions. No GM does.

He's a douchebag but, he'll be here for a while imo.

People think he makes these decisions because MULTIPLE sources with the Chiefs and elsewhere in the NFL have said he does.

How naive do you have to be?

The Franchise 10-17-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9024061)
Christian Ponder is another QB that is better than Cassel that we could have picked FYI.

We would have had to trade up for him.......otherwise the list would be worse than I what posted.


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